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Title: downloading...... slow as dialup
Post by: coreservers on May 16, 2010, 19:22:44
Currently gettig a stable (yes I know... I did say stable) 5.5mb. however tonight I'm downloading patches for software, they average around 600mb each, from a UK server, with a 1000mbs line. I'm getting 28k downloads. pings are way up at 72ms. Gonna take me all night at this rate, tried one at 6am, same thing. 28k
Title: Re: downloading...... slow as dialup
Post by: DorsetBoy on May 16, 2010, 19:25:00
Pings 11ms here, what server are you looking at?
Title: Re: downloading...... slow as dialup
Post by: coreservers on May 16, 2010, 19:26:21
download26.gamershell.com
Title: Re: downloading...... slow as dialup
Post by: DorsetBoy on May 16, 2010, 19:29:47
Pinging download26.gamershell.com [87.127.227.91] with 32
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 87.127.227.91:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 13ms, Average = 12ms

C:\Users\Adrian>ping -n 10 download26.gamershell.com

Pinging download26.gamershell.com [87.127.227.91] with 32
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 87.127.227.91:
    Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 51ms, Average = 18ms

C:\Users\Adrian>ping -n 20 download26.gamershell.com

Pinging download26.gamershell.com [87.127.227.91] with 32
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=59ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 87.127.227.91:
    Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 20, Lost = 0 (0% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 72ms, Average = 20ms

Title: Re: downloading...... slow as dialup
Post by: coreservers on May 16, 2010, 19:30:12
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Sonas>ping download26.gamershell.com

Pinging download26.gamershell.com [87.127.227.91] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=59ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=58ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=63ms TTL=57
Reply from 87.127.227.91: bytes=32 time=64ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 87.127.227.91:
   Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
   Minimum = 58ms, Maximum = 64ms, Average = 61ms

Tracing route to download26.gamershell.com [87.127.227.91]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1     8 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
 2    62 ms    55 ms    60 ms  telehouse-gw4-lo2.idnet.net [212.69.63.99]
 3    64 ms    55 ms    57 ms  telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]

 4     *       60 ms    54 ms  lonap1.enta.net [193.203.5.134]
 5    59 ms    56 ms    63 ms  te5-2.gs1.core.enta.net [87.127.236.42]
 6    57 ms    60 ms    62 ms  te1-1.interxion.core.enta.net [87.127.236.86]
 7    60 ms    69 ms    59 ms  87-127-227-91.static.enta.net [87.127.227.91]

Trace complete.

Title: Re: downloading...... slow as dialup
Post by: DorsetBoy on May 16, 2010, 19:31:18

Tracing route to download26.gamershell.com [87.127.227.91]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  my.router [192.168.1.1]
  2    13 ms    12 ms    25 ms  telehouse-gw4-lo2.idnet.net [212.69.63.99]
  3    13 ms    12 ms    12 ms  telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.24
  4    13 ms    12 ms    12 ms  lonap1.enta.net [193.203.5.134]
  5    18 ms    12 ms    12 ms  te5-2.gs1.core.enta.net [87.127.236.42]
  6    12 ms    12 ms    13 ms  te1-1.interxion.core.enta.net [87.127.236.86]
  7    13 ms    12 ms    12 ms  87-127-227-91.static.enta.net [87.127.227.91]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: downloading...... slow as dialup
Post by: coreservers on May 16, 2010, 19:33:03
as you can see between me and idnet is where the pings increase. never below 48ms. online gaming, forget it. lag disconnects. impossible.
Title: Re: downloading...... slow as dialup
Post by: DorsetBoy on May 16, 2010, 19:39:08
1) That server is on Entanet which is notorious for traffic shaping at peak times. 

2) The pings are consistent over the entire trace,NOT just to IDNet.

3) Server download speeds vary with load.If plenty of other people are after the same patches this is exactly what you would see. I get ISO's for Linux distros,during american peak times the downloads are @50kbps at best, try when they are asleep and I get 800kbps from the same server.

4) Your first hop..... your router is 8ms,that should be 1ms for all 3 results.
Title: Re: downloading...... slow as dialup
Post by: DorsetBoy on May 16, 2010, 19:42:08
I would get a BT speed test, your router stats (has anything changed there?) and those pings/traces and email them to support for their comment.
Title: Re: downloading...... slow as dialup
Post by: coreservers on May 16, 2010, 19:52:54
I have tried before, but generally the response is to do with BT and unfortunately the monster that BT is, in holding this country back technology wise, nothing gets done becasue I meet the ludicrous minimum standards that the ridiculous BT speedtester is set to. Here's a tracert to IDnet, as you can see in the last one is misses out 1 hop and in this one it misses out 1 hop. The 1st hop was a blip I think as all three are less that 1ms

I'm not blaming IDnet, just wondering if anything was up. obviously not, just my "acceptable" line


Tracing route to www.idnet.com [212.69.36.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    62 ms    61 ms    58 ms  telehouse-gw4-lo2.idnet.net [212.69.63.99]
  3     *       65 ms    63 ms  telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]

  4    65 ms    60 ms    64 ms  redbus-gw2-g0-1-331.idnet.net [212.69.63.5]
  5    66 ms    63 ms    62 ms  redbus-gw1-fa2-0-300.idnet.net [212.69.63.225]
  6    50 ms    58 ms    63 ms  www.idnet.net [212.69.36.10]

Trace complete.

Title: Re: downloading...... slow as dialup
Post by: kinmel on May 16, 2010, 19:59:39
I am interleaved, just done now................

C:\Users\alan>tracert www.idnet.net

Tracing route to www.idnet.net [212.69.36.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.254
 2     2 ms    29 ms    28 ms  telehouse-gw4-lo2.idnet.net [212.69.63.99]
 3    28 ms    38 ms    31 ms  telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]

 4    34 ms    40 ms    31 ms  redbus-gw2-g0-1-331.idnet.net [212.69.63.5]
 5    47 ms    37 ms    36 ms  redbus-gw1-fa2-0-300.idnet.net [212.69.63.225]
 6    28 ms    47 ms    30 ms  www.idnet.net [212.69.36.10]

Trace complete.

Title: Re: downloading...... slow as dialup
Post by: Niall on May 16, 2010, 21:57:00
I find that most servers in the UK on Gamershell are always slow. I use the download option for Holland if there is one available. It's been a while since I've used them though so they might not offer the same amount of mirrors as they did.