IDNetters Forums

Technical News & Discussion => Windows News & Discussion => Topic started by: sobranie on May 03, 2010, 17:14:12

Title: new 'puter
Post by: sobranie on May 03, 2010, 17:14:12
Nearly time for a shiny new 'puter.
Considering using pc specialist as I've dealt with the company on a few occassions for friends and they seem to be quite good.
However, the mother board used is an ASUSĀ® P5P43TD: ATX MID RANGE BOARD & DDR3, SATA-II, 3 x PCI which I'm sure is quite fair but I can find no mention of IDE HD support which is a MUST!!
So, other than an external caddy jobby I'm a bit stuck at the mo..unless anyone can suggest a mobo which does the job (sata and ide) which I could persuade pc specialist to fit.
Any other recommends apart from pc specialist would be appreciated.
Reasoning; I have 3 ide hd's at the mo. and the prospect of 'sorting them out' is a little daunting to say the least.
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: vitriol on May 03, 2010, 17:21:02
Just quickly googled and found this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageGallery.aspx?CurImage=13-131-395-S03&SCList=13-131-395-S01%2c13-131-395-S02%2c13-131-395-S03%2c13-131-395-S04%2c13-131-395-S05&S7ImageFlag=2&Item=N82E16813131395&Depa=0&WaterMark=1&Description=ASUS%20P5P43TD%20Pro%20LGA%20775%20Intel%20P43%20ATX%20Intel%20Motherboard).

According to that picture there is one IDE/PATA connector on the board which means that you could use it for two of your hard disks.
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: Steve on May 03, 2010, 17:24:09
It won't be long before IDE disappears all together,probably time for some 'spring ' cleaning
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: Glenn on May 03, 2010, 17:26:26
It does have an ATA 133 controller
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: Rik on May 03, 2010, 17:26:57
Quote from: Steve on May 03, 2010, 17:24:09
It won't be long before IDE disappears all together,probably time for some 'spring ' cleaning

By then, of course, we'll also probably find that SATA is on the way out. ;)
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: Glenn on May 03, 2010, 17:44:05
My new board is on SATA 3 & USB 3
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: Rik on May 03, 2010, 17:46:42
Have you anything which utilises USB3?
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: Glenn on May 03, 2010, 17:49:00
Not yet, but things will start appearing soon.
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: Rik on May 03, 2010, 17:52:42
I'll be interested to hear what real world speeds you can get.
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: sobranie on May 03, 2010, 17:56:52
Quote from: vitriol on May 03, 2010, 17:21:02
Just quickly googled and found this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageGallery.aspx?CurImage=13-131-395-S03&SCList=13-131-395-S01%2c13-131-395-S02%2c13-131-395-S03%2c13-131-395-S04%2c13-131-395-S05&S7ImageFlag=2&Item=N82E16813131395&Depa=0&WaterMark=1&Description=ASUS%20P5P43TD%20Pro%20LGA%20775%20Intel%20P43%20ATX%20Intel%20Motherboard).

According to that picture there is one IDE/PATA connector on the board which means that you could use it for two of your hard disks.

Brilliant, I was looking in the wrong place! Time for new specs too I think.
Many thanks squire.

Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: Gary on May 03, 2010, 18:21:38
Quote from: Rik on May 03, 2010, 17:52:42
I'll be interested to hear what real world speeds you can get.
There was a report on elreg that they were not that great, faster than USB 2 but not blinding as you would think. as was quoted on ZDnet  "We’re dependent on the system vendors and their driver writers to develop robust support. That could take years"
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: Rik on May 03, 2010, 18:25:36
Ah, the driver cycle is upon us. ;)
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: Gary on May 03, 2010, 18:37:07
Quote from: Rik on May 03, 2010, 18:25:36
Ah, the driver cycle is upon us. ;)
;D Indeed, until then as I see it do I need faster communication within my network to my external devices....nope its like having a Formula 1 car to go to the local shops for me  ;D
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: D-Dan on May 03, 2010, 19:39:14
My mind always boggles when people say they are going to buy a pre-built computer. Get online, source the components yourself, and don't bother paying for anything you can use from your old system (Hard drives, DVD/CD drives etc.)

When you get everything, put it together. Just like a big 3D jigsaw, makes troubleshooting in the future so much easier, and the sense of acheivement at a job well done is immense.

I haven't bought pre-built in more than 6 years (and I'm still upgrading that one - I replaced the PSU 3 times (4 if you count the 750Watt monster that blew a gasket. Luckily it didn't take anything with it) , the case twice, MB 3 times, Gfx card 5 times, drives several times, the floppy once before I dithed it, and the CPU 3 times. I also added some bits along the way.)

From various spares, I built PC2, which is still a fine workhorse or server.

Steve
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: Steve on May 03, 2010, 19:49:21
Whilst I agree with you and indeed just built an 'old' PC from the bits I've kept over the last few years the cost savings are non existent when buying a new system and indeed may be more expensive like for like also not everyone wants or feels able to get their hands dirty.
Title: Re: new 'puter
Post by: sobranie on May 03, 2010, 20:36:11
DD .... agree with you up to a point but my present 'pute is pushing 9 years old and apart from HD's and a cpu fan it's the same beasty I originally bought from fujitsu siemens.
Steve .... agreed, would be more expensive to assemble from various sourced suppliers.

jftr, I haven't decided on the final spec yet (nearly there) & will post the spec for any interested members.