IDNetters Forums

Technical News & Discussion => Windows News & Discussion => Topic started by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 11:54:06

Title: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 11:54:06
I've noticed this week that the spam I've been getting, not a huge amount, has started asking for receipts - not something I've seen before. Have I been lucky, or is this a new twist to identify live boxes?
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Noreen on Apr 09, 2010, 12:08:05
I don't get any spam through IDNet but there has been an increase via my Yahoo UK account. I just look at the headings of that spam (don't open them) and then delete them so wouldn't know if they ask for receipts.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 12:13:28
Outlook responds to items in the inbox when you try to delete, Noreen.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Noreen on Apr 09, 2010, 12:49:37
Not sure what you mean, Rik.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: zappaDPJ on Apr 09, 2010, 13:02:18
When you delete an email where the sender has a requested a receipt notification, Outlook puts up a nag screen asking if you wish to send one :)
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: john on Apr 09, 2010, 13:02:50
I presume that you mean that you are prompted for a receipt to be sent when you try to delete Rik and therefore have the option to decline to send one. Is it possible to set up a rule to automatically delete e-mails from unknown senders which request a receipt ?
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: kinmel on Apr 09, 2010, 13:29:19
We are having receipt requests on spam too, it's obviously the latest craze.

An awful lot of people permit automatic responses
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: talos on Apr 09, 2010, 13:45:48
Quote from: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 11:54:06
I've noticed this week that the spam I've been getting, not a huge amount, has started asking for receipts - not something I've seen before. Have I been lucky, or is this a new twist to identify live boxes?

Me too Rik, it seems to be latest wheeze, I just delete and block sender, but another will follow next day with a different sender :mad: , I'll just keep doing it untill they get fed up, most are linked to a line of text gobbledegook with a Viagra add to finish with. 8-)
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: DorsetBoy on Apr 09, 2010, 14:20:16
That's why I wanted to have Windows Mail in Win7, it has a Block list for International Top Level Domains,just tick the ones you don't want and Mr.Lombo, solicitor to the queen of Togo automatically gets deleted before he starts  ;D  You also choose to "Never send/respond to receipt requests".

Works very well when you also block GB  :blush:
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 14:28:06
Glad it's not just me they're picking on. Thanks, guys.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 14:30:02
Quote from: john on Apr 09, 2010, 13:02:50
I presume that you mean that you are prompted for a receipt to be sent when you try to delete Rik and therefore have the option to decline to send one. Is it possible to set up a rule to automatically delete e-mails from unknown senders which request a receipt ?

Possibly, John, but as this is all coming in on the forum email address I'm reluctant to delete mail from unknown senders as it may be a genuine mail from a member.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Gary on Apr 09, 2010, 14:38:53
I have not had any like that yet, better go check my yahoo and gmail accounts fro anyone from togo asking about my  HSBC bank account, the one I do  not have that is  ;D
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 14:39:55
Those aren't doing it yet, Gary, it's the blue pill, story telling type that are causing the problem.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Ray on Apr 09, 2010, 15:15:16
I've had a couple of those recently, Rik, with zip files attached to them.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 15:15:49
The very same. :(
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Ray on Apr 09, 2010, 15:17:49
Yes, Rik, I've just checked and they both came via my idnetters addy.  :(
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 15:20:50
It's because we have to advertise the address publicly for people to contact us in an emergency, Ray.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Ray on Apr 09, 2010, 15:36:15
Indeed, Rik, at least my antispam programme picked both of them up.  :)
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 15:54:09
Outlook does, but just nags for the receipt. :(
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: kinmel on Apr 09, 2010, 17:27:01
It is not just the Idnet email addys that are suffering, I use half a dozen domains for email and they are all getting this stuff now.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Noreen on Apr 09, 2010, 17:28:27
I understand now, Rik. I have Windows Mail with it set up to never send receipts.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 17:30:35
Quote from: kinmel on Apr 09, 2010, 17:27:01
It is not just the Idnet email addys that are suffering, I use half a dozen domains for email and they are all getting this stuff now.

I didn't mean to imply it was an IDNet issue, Alan, but rather it's caused by the publication of a contact email address for forum staff, in case anyone gets locked out, for example. Because of it being 'out there', it attracts spam that simply doesn't happen with the rest of my IDNet addresses.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 17:30:59
Quote from: Noreen on Apr 09, 2010, 17:28:27
I understand now, Rik. I have Windows Mail with it set up to never send receipts.

If Outlook can do that, I haven't worked out how. :)
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Noreen on Apr 09, 2010, 17:41:37
Is this any help, Rik? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192929
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: DorsetBoy on Apr 09, 2010, 17:42:10
 In Windows Mail it's > Options > Receipts .

[attachment deleted by admin]
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 17:53:03
Quote from: Noreen on Apr 09, 2010, 17:41:37
Is this any help, Rik? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192929

Perfect, Noreen, don't know why I've never noticed that before.  :-* :karma:
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Noreen on Apr 09, 2010, 18:05:46
 :thnks:
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Simon on Apr 09, 2010, 18:08:22
95% of spam doesn't get past MailWasher for me, so I rarely see it, but haven't had any return receipt requests, and would never automate it.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 18:17:22
Do the genuine forum emails get through?
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Simon on Apr 09, 2010, 18:34:17
What genuine forum emails?  I always get notifications of PMs, etc.  Mailwasher is a manual process.  It highlights what it thinks is spam, based on white / black lists, and prepares them for deletion from the server.  A quick glance before hitting the 'Process' button is all that is required, and as I've been using it for years, I now have quite a comprehensive data base of filters.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 18:38:34
The ones from people who can't login or have problems joining? The ones I send to test the account?
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Simon on Apr 09, 2010, 19:46:42
They're forwarded to my main IDNet account.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 19:48:05
No spam getting through, but tests are? Mailwasher is working. :)
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Simon on Apr 09, 2010, 19:52:58
I know.  :)
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 19:54:05
 :)
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: wecpcs on Apr 09, 2010, 20:53:51
Quote from: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 17:30:59
If Outlook can do that, I haven't worked out how. :)

I did not either but I used the online help and discovered the process, which I have now done.

Colin
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: psp83 on Apr 10, 2010, 01:03:29
Didn't you get the check box to stop them when requested ?

(http://psp83.co.uk/pics/rr.jpg)
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 10, 2010, 09:42:25
Oh yes, Paul, it's just that it's the first time I've seen receipted spam in quantity.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Gary on Apr 10, 2010, 09:54:06
Quote from: Rik on Apr 09, 2010, 14:39:55
Those aren't doing it yet, Gary, it's the blue pill, story telling type that are causing the problem.
My inbox is clear so far of those kinds of mail thankfully, don't get the blue pill ones these days, maybe they know something I don't  :eek4:
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 10, 2010, 09:59:19
They've cut you off, Gary.  :evil:
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Gary on Apr 10, 2010, 10:06:17
Quote from: Rik on Apr 10, 2010, 09:59:19
They've cut you off, Gary.  :evil:
Noooooo!  :gulp:
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 10, 2010, 10:08:16
 ;D
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: talos on Apr 12, 2010, 10:12:20
Just received in the E-mail this morning,  :po: do you recon  I should go out and order my new camera this morning? :eyebrow:

[attachment deleted by admin]
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 12, 2010, 10:13:56
Depends what camera you're after, Bob. ;)
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Glenn on Apr 12, 2010, 10:15:50
I've been getting spam for the past 3 or 4 weeks, routed through 1 IDNet account, even blacklisting the account in question hasn't stopped the mail arriving.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 12, 2010, 10:16:23
Odd, isn't it. :(
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: talos on Apr 12, 2010, 10:17:10
Quote from: Rik on Apr 12, 2010, 10:13:56
Depends what camera you're after, Bob. ;)

These scam Emails are getting damn clever, I nearly clicked it until I realised I dont do tax on line :slap:
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Glenn on Apr 12, 2010, 10:18:08
It is, I don't know if support can contact the account holder, to let them know of a possible security problem?
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 12, 2010, 10:18:47
Quote from: talos on Apr 12, 2010, 10:17:10
These scam Emails are getting damn clever, I nearly clicked it until I realised I dont do tax on line :slap:

I see you found the new smiley. :) Yes, we are getting to a point where even those of us who are naturally cautious can get caught out.  :shake:
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 12, 2010, 10:19:03
Quote from: Glenn on Apr 12, 2010, 10:18:08
It is, I don't know if support can contact the account holder, to let them know of a possible security problem?

They can.
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: talos on Apr 12, 2010, 10:20:47
 :slap:
                   Love the smiley, I shall use that a lot :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: Rik on Apr 12, 2010, 10:24:43
Thank Jill. :)
Title: Re: Spam - new pattern this week
Post by: talos on Apr 12, 2010, 10:29:52
Thanks Jill :karma: