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Title: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: dujas on Mar 31, 2010, 16:32:38
To be enabled between Autumn 2010 and Summer 2011, list of exchanges here (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4197-bt-announce-a-further-300-exchanges-for-fibre-broadband-upgrades.html).
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Glenn on Mar 31, 2010, 16:34:03
http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=19105.msg467645#msg467645
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Mar 31, 2010, 16:36:38
It's interesting to see my exchange crop up on yet another list, let's hope it proves to be true.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Glenn on Mar 31, 2010, 16:38:06
It's the same list as Hells Bells posted I believe
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Mar 31, 2010, 16:39:14
Yes, just a different source.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Noreen on Mar 31, 2010, 17:15:00
Most the exchanges around me seem to be listed but not mine. Not really bothered by it at the moment though as I normally get over 14MB.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Mar 31, 2010, 17:17:15
For me, fibre will be a huge step forward, and there's no question that I'll go for it - I just wonder, though, whether I'll make full use of it.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Glenn on Mar 31, 2010, 17:18:08
Me too, with WBC I would no doubt get slower or similar speeds.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Mar 31, 2010, 17:18:54
To judge by recent postings, it certainly remains a bit of a lottery, Glenn.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Glenn on Mar 31, 2010, 17:20:16
It does.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Colin Burns on Apr 04, 2010, 11:38:24
im just amazed by the fact there are some north east exchanges on the list
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Apr 04, 2010, 11:44:07
It's done like the lottery, Colin, they draw balls out of a bag. ;)
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Gary on Apr 04, 2010, 12:40:42
Can't see us getting fibre until 2050 probably and WBC is just a dream for this new decade  :bawl:
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Apr 04, 2010, 12:42:10
You'll get fibre, Gary, but it might be delivered as a wet piece of string. ;)
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Technical Ben on Apr 04, 2010, 13:14:43
I'm sure you could watch masterchef in high definition on BBC2 over that fibre Rik, while you drool over your sausages!  :thumb:
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Gary on Apr 04, 2010, 13:15:40
Quote from: Rik on Apr 04, 2010, 12:42:10
You'll get fibre, Gary, but it might be delivered as a wet piece of string. ;)
I'll delivered in a back of a black car by that day to a cemetery I imagine, Rik. Seriously, our exchange is just so overlooked like many small rural ones its maddening  :mad:
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Apr 04, 2010, 13:23:57
It's the city/rural trade off, Gary. :(
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Niall on Apr 04, 2010, 13:30:29
It makes me wonder how they chose the arse end and complete holes of Wales to do it, and not the bigger areas.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Apr 04, 2010, 15:22:25
Less complaints if it goes wrong?
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Simon on Apr 04, 2010, 16:05:19
Less people with TVs?   ;D :out:
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 04, 2010, 18:26:00
I dont really see the point of fttc, why dont they just make ftth, because thats what is going to happen, just seems like watching the pennies.

If you have fttc and live 500m away you wont see much improvement would you?
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Apr 04, 2010, 18:31:25
It is saving pennies, but BT have made the commercial decision that FTTC is sufficient (and much cheaper) than FTTP. To be fair, Virgin also do FTTC, the last stretch being a coax cable. For most people, it will deliver sufficient improvement, few people live as close to the exchange as they do to their cabinet, and 500m is usually going to produce a big improvement over several km to the exchange, not to mention that the technology is capable of delivering more.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 04, 2010, 19:02:44
True rik, but move on fibre for normal adsl you really need to using 200gb plus a month, otherwise whats the point.

I want faster bb but 7meg is more than enough for most things. Faster bb is only worth it if your going to use it.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Apr 04, 2010, 19:04:59
I don't know. There are two possible reasons for moving to fibre, one is bandwidth used, the other is speed. FTTC will open up a new raft of possibilities that can't be considered seriously for Max/WBC.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 04, 2010, 19:07:32
Like what?
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Apr 04, 2010, 19:13:00
VOD would be the most obvious thought, in real time HD.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 04, 2010, 19:18:55
Yeah that would get bandwith up a fair bit.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Apr 04, 2010, 19:20:53
Plus radio, phone etc. I can see a fibre connection replacing much of the present communication systems, if it's robust enough.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 04, 2010, 19:26:59
That will cost billions to do.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Rik on Apr 04, 2010, 19:37:57
There's billions to be earned too. It all comes down to what the return on the investment would be.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 04, 2010, 19:42:33
Yeah it would and if it cost viable aswell. Has idnet started to roll out fttc products yet?
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Technical Ben on Apr 04, 2010, 20:07:43
IDNet resell BT products (those available on the open market). So no. Unless there is a massive change in the way IDNet work, and they gain the millions/billions needed to install the cables. Bear in mind most LLU providers only change the boxes in the exchange, not the cable it's self.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Joel on Apr 04, 2010, 21:57:51
Can I ask whether the list in the original post is specific to exchanges, or areas? It says "Brighton and Hove", but is that a specific exhange, or does it mean all of the exchanges near to Brighton and Hove?

Thanks
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: zappaDPJ on Apr 04, 2010, 22:21:52
These announcements usually refer to the actual exchange name rather than the area.
Title: Re: BT announce a further 303 exchanges for fibre broadband upgrades
Post by: Glenn on May 08, 2010, 07:47:32
I just found this pdf (http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/products/nga/fttc/downloads/FTTC%20roll%20out%20ph%204b-5%20exchanges%20for%20delivery%20by%202011-03-31.pdf) it shows an indicative date for when the exchange should be upgraded.