Pings show 50% packet loss. Could this be a return of the dreaded Peterborough node? :-/
I'm getting slow websites.. but some load normal ???
also anything within IDnet is normal!
C:\Users\Paul>ping www.idnet.net
Pinging www.idnet.net [212.69.36.10] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=59
Ping statistics for 212.69.36.10:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 14ms, Maximum = 16ms, Average = 15ms
C:\Users\Paul>ping www.paulparadise.co.uk
Pinging paulparadise.co.uk [77.92.89.80] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Reply from 77.92.89.80: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=59
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 77.92.89.80:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 1, Lost = 3 (75% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 15ms, Maximum = 15ms, Average = 15ms
yup same here, painfully slow and massive packet loss. cant search in google. nor get to the test page in Either BT or Speedtest.net.
Pings are normal here, however browsing had become PAINFULLY slow, I'm talking 30 seconds to load igoogle!!!
Glad its not just me,its very sporadic I agree igoogle is painfully slow
Thanks guys, I won't bother hitting my router just yet.
Someone put 50p in the elec please!
Although the internet is generally slower than normal, it appears that google search, igoogle, and gmail are crawling and virtually unloadable. Can't / not able to - really do a comprehensive test on many other sites due to the general sluggishness.
Its a LINX routing issue which will affect many ISPs according to AAISP
Is it affecting all metronodes or just Peterborough?
Thanks Steve. At least BT are now aware.
Hi,
I'm seeing the same here (in Hampshire so it's not just Peterborough :) ). It doesn't seem to be uniform though. Some sites are fine whilst others are treacle. Seems to be sites in the US suffering worst for me.
Cheers,
Paul.
Its everyone, I'm adslmax so not a Peterborough issue
seems to be ok now for me!
Further update with my setup. Just pulled off the router ethernet cable from the back of my Mac, and connected with my mifi router (mobile network) - and for the first time in the past hour, I am now able to access igoogle, google search, and gmail, wheres previously I could not do that. Tried a few sites, although slightly sluggish, it appears to all work with my mifi.
I'm near Edinburgh, it seems to be getting worse tbh.
Oxford here and very slow in the last hour or so yet when running the speedtest app over my iPhone (using wifi of course) my speed is fine.
Add me to the list
Seems OK here in Sussex now.
Went to watch some stuff on YouTube, totally impossible to play more than a couple of seconds, and even searching is taking a while.
Google is taking a while to load up, too.
My own website (which has MP3s that can be played via a Flash player on the page) is transferring fine, the rest of my site also moves around nice and fast.
Facebook and Twitter, I'm having varying results with.
I'm in West Berkshire.
Here's a traceroute to YouTube (I gave up after 11 hops):
Tracing route to youtube.com [74.125.127.100]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms modem.lan [192.168.0.1]
2 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 297 ms 97 ms 20 ms telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 195.66.224.125
5 * * 20 ms 64.233.175.27
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 112 ms * * 209.85.251.233
8 * 160 ms 160 ms 216.239.43.80
9 * 182 ms * 209.85.250.126
10 169 ms 167 ms 173 ms 216.239.43.228
11 * * 166 ms 64.233.174.125
12 ^C
Thoughput is fine, pings are fine but half of the www is lost to me i.e. completely unresponsive. As this is clearly country wide (London here), Steve's information would seem to be spot on :thumb:
Apparently i'm getting my normal speed according to speedtest.net, but many websites tonight are slow and unresponsive. :whistle:
Think its time to get an early night and hope its fixed in the morning ( I have a deadline to meet! )
Very slow to some sites.. other are fine.
someone seems to have stolen google from me :(
Tracing route to google.com [209.85.227.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms gateway [192.168.1.1]
2 2 ms 52 ms 54 ms telehouse-gw4-lo2.idnet.net [212.69.63.99]
3 56 ms 52 ms 55 ms telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 * * 110 ms 195.66.224.125
5 55 ms 54 ms 52 ms 64.233.175.27
6 61 ms 60 ms 59 ms 66.249.95.173
7 61 ms 58 ms 60 ms 72.14.236.191
8 60 ms 64 ms 60 ms 209.85.243.89
9 61 ms 61 ms 61 ms wy-in-f104.1e100.net [209.85.227.104]
Trace complete.
I think the problematic node might be 195.66.224.125
EvilPC's traceroute seems to show a couple of timeouts on this node alone.
I've done several traceroutes now and this node or the ones after it start timing out.
A lookup on the IP shows that it is a LINX node, as previously mentioned.
Yep, very slow here still, from East Sussex.
Same here in Cheshire, currently unusable with most sites.
May as well have an early night and try again tomorrow.
Treacle like in Cornwall. Is this the start of the prophecy that the internet will eventually slow to a halt? :eek4: :eek4:
Painfully slow on some sites for me here
It seems to be getting worse which is not what I would have expected at this time of night. There must be a real bottleneck somewhere.
And up here in Aberdeen the internet has turned into porridge too. ;D
Same symptoms everyone else is experiencing.
I find it unbelievable that this issue is still ongoing and the IDNet status page is still showing "Good Service". AAISP posted the issue to their status page over two and a half hours ago, and posted an update over an hour ago with a temporary fix. I expect better from IDNet.
On a positive note, my backup 3G broadband is remarkably fast at this hour.
After a quick bit of searching, it also appears that Xilo and NewNet picked it up. The search was hardly exhaustive and I avoided checking larger companies for the sake of fairness. Both also have provided a fix until LINX resolve the issue. It is a shame IDNet have not put a fix in place or even noted that there is a problem.
Seems to be OK again now.
Quote from: Adam on Mar 17, 2010, 01:48:51
On a positive note, my backup 3G broadband is remarkably fast at this hour.
Hehe, I agree, my Three 3g stick came in use tonight :)
I'm still having problems here.
[EDIT] Or maybe not, as soon as I posted that the website I was trying to connect to in another browser session resolved ::) ;D
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Mar 17, 2010, 02:13:40
I'm still having problems here.
[EDIT] Or maybe not, as soon as I posted that the website I was trying to connect to in another browser session resolved ::) ;D
I'm still getting a few problems but not as bad as earlier. I couple hard refreshes seems to force the site to load.
Yeah, I've just tried a few sites like YouTube and I'm getting text only content. Weird!
Everything seems fine for me now. Hopefully the issue has been resolved.
Quote from: Adam on Mar 17, 2010, 02:04:25
After a quick bit of searching, it also appears that Xilo and NewNet picked it up. The search was hardly exhaustive and I avoided checking larger companies for the sake of fairness. Both also have provided a fix until LINX resolve the issue. It is a shame IDNet have not put a fix in place or even noted that there is a problem.
Get used to it. IDNet's status page is a joke, and their history of being proactive in keeping customers informed is similar. Speed, reliability of service: pretty good. Keeping customers informed: dire.
I long ago stopped posting on this forum because the pro-IDNet mafia jump on anyone with a factual but anti-IDNet complaint, but it really does speak volumes that AAISP and this forum are now the default methods for finding out about problems rather than IDNet itself.
On a positive note, no problems here in Sussex for the last hour.
That's funny, Dopamine, I thought you'd stopped posting here because you'd left IDNet, like you said you were going to, several times.
All ok here, now :iagree:
Fine here too. ;D
Normal service has resumed. ;D >:D
It's the LINX effect. ;D :out:
Mine dropped this morn about 8, but came straight back up again :dunno:
Was that a router re-syc or something else, Bob?
Quote from: talos on Mar 17, 2010, 11:54:07
Mine dropped this morn about 8, but came straight back up again :dunno:
That's all very well but what about your internet connection? ;)
;D
Quote from: Rik on Mar 17, 2010, 12:04:28
Was that a router re-syc or something else, Bob?
Well from the router log.........ADSL down then 30sec later ADSL up looked like a re-boot but I dont understand these things :dunno:
Quote from: Ted on Mar 17, 2010, 12:23:46
That's all very well but what about your internet connection? ;)
:smartarse: :thwack: ;D
Quote from: talos on Mar 17, 2010, 12:40:05
Well from the router log.........ADSL down then 30sec later ADSL up looked like a re-boot but I dont understand these things :dunno:
It sounds like a resync caused by a burst of noise, Bob.
Must have been me falling over the chair then? :)
That would do it. :)
Obviously someone put another shilling in the meter. The www lives again today.
It's giving you a final burst before your op, Zap. ;)
It's probably a good thing I'll be off the net for a few days, my usage this month is predicted to scare the pants off my bank manager. I'm still trying to plug the leak!
;D
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Mar 17, 2010, 12:59:32
It's probably a good thing I'll be off the net for a few days, my usage this month is predicted to scare the pants off my bank manager. I'm still trying to plug the leak!
No clues from the router, Zap?
It appears that there's been a massive amount of activity (20GB at least) routing through the Telia network. I play World of Warcraft in the evenings and the game servers are located on that network. The game updater has been slowly downloading patch data over the last week but that should account for no more than 1GB up and down. Blizzard, the game creators, use a p2p network to handle updates and I'm wondering if something has gone wrong with it. I can't see any other explanation for it. I do have wireless enabled but it's using the maximum length, randomly generated key, and I think all the other settings such as they are, are locked up tight.
Hi,
I'd recommend installing Wireshark on all your machines then stopping all your programs and running it. That way you can see where each box is talking to and hopefully pick up activity from any stealth infections they may have acquired.
Cheers,
Paul.
Quote from: talos on Mar 17, 2010, 11:54:07
Mine dropped this morn about 8, but came straight back up again :dunno:
I don't think I needed to know that, but you can get these blue pills I hear...... :whistle:
Quote from: Gary on Mar 17, 2010, 13:43:46
I don't think I needed to know that, but you can get these blue pills I hear...... :whistle:
I feel sure you would know more about that than me :eyebrow:
Quote from: Dangerjunkie on Mar 17, 2010, 13:30:48
Hi,
I'd recommend installing Wireshark on all your machines then stopping all your programs and running it. That way you can see where each box is talking to and hopefully pick up activity from any stealth infections they may have acquired.
Cheers,
Paul.
Thanks, that sounds like a good idea, I might well give that a try :karma:
Quote from: talos on Mar 17, 2010, 14:37:32
I feel sure you would know more about that than me :eyebrow:
I think you would be better off asking my wife ;)
The preload for WoW's 3.3.3 patch is only 129MB and like any P2P program left to seed, it would mainly be using your upstream connection.
So, what was the problem re. slow internet? Anyone??
The LINX network failed, Rick. While IDNet has a couple of backup peerings, some sites were still advertising their presence across LINX, hence the treacle speed. Google was one of those. Ideally, it would also appear on LONAP, but it refuses to pay the £2,000 pa costs which everyone else pays for a presence there.
Quote from: Gary on Mar 17, 2010, 16:16:50
I think you would be better off asking my wife ;)
Well I assumed you would be there too, even if only to take notes :dunno: :D
Quote from: Rik on Mar 17, 2010, 17:45:30
The LINX network failed, Rick. While IDNet has a couple of backup peerings, some sites were still advertising their presence across LINX, hence the treacle speed. Google was one of those. Ideally, it would also appear on LONAP, but it refuses to pay the £2,000 pa costs which everyone else pays for a presence there.
Thanks Rik.
Memo to oneself [Read all postings before asking questions] :whistle:
Is there perhaps some automated system that IDNet can use on their status page? So if BT break something it just says "almost seamless service status" but "somethings slightly off" and "well be onto it soon enough".
I know IDNet could not do much about it, and their backup did kick in. But having a note on the status page is nice. Is it a DNS problem? I was not on much last night, it worked for me on Open DNS.
It depended a lot on where you going,
Quote from: Simon on Mar 17, 2010, 08:04:55
That's funny, Dopamine, I thought you'd stopped posting here because you'd left IDNet, like you said you were going to, several times.
Lol. That just proves my point. Say anything remotely critical of IDNet and some smarta*se member of the IDNet fan-club gets his feelings hurt and feels the need to make a pointless post in an effort to protect their cosy little empire from dissenting voices. Ho ho ho.
It's an ISP for goodness sake, not a religion or substitute life. Do you feel such ludicrous love and belonging to your water supplier?
I'll also take the opportunity to correct your misrepresentation of what I said in the past, which was that I was considering leaving if things didn't improve. They didn't improve, I requested and received my MAC, I arranged to move on, but then received an unsolicited phone call from a member of staff at IDNet asking me to reconsider and giving me a very detailed explanation of the moves afoot to improve matters, a time scale for improvements and so on. I felt that the effort made to contact me deserved at least a month's grace, so cancelled my migration. Sure enough, the problems - which, as you'll remember, were initially blamed, erroneously, by IDNet on everyone else but themselves - went away, so I had no need to move.
Must dash. I need to write a love letter to my electricity company. I've not had a power cut in years.
Anyone else having some problems tonight? For the last 20 minutes I cant get to Norway... :eyebrow:
root@miyuki:~# traceroute irc.rizon.no
traceroute to irc.rizon.no (85.196.81.211), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net (212.69.63.51) 34.028 ms 34.228 ms 82.655 ms
2 telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net (212.69.63.243) 207.176 ms 206.825 ms 206.220 ms
3 * * *
4 * * *
5 * * *
6 * * *
7 * * *
I noticed on www.internettrafficreport.com the kt1-3ja.bdr.ex.net in london is a low 37, no idea if related.
No problems here, but, :welc:
I've not noticed anything amiss tonight on my connection.
:welc: Maiku :karma:
[EDIT] However, I can't ping that IP either.
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\zappaDPJ>traceroute irc.rizon.no
'traceroute' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
C:\Users\zappaDPJ>tracert irc.rizon.no
Tracing route to irc.rizon.no [85.196.81.211]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 * * * Request timed out.
Quote from: talos on Mar 17, 2010, 20:18:20
Well I assumed you would be there too, even if only to take notes :dunno: :D
So you will be needing those blue pills then :D
Thanks for the warm welcome :)
Seems like the problem fixed itself as I can get to everything again now.
Pings a bit high but dosnt appear to be affecting anything.
root@miyuki:/# traceroute irc.rizon.no
traceroute to irc.rizon.no (85.196.81.211), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net (212.69.63.51) 92.198 ms 92.330 ms 92.191 ms
2 telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net (212.69.63.243) 92.712 ms 93.301 ms 93.896 ms
3 gi8-27.mpd01.lon02.atlas.cogentco.com (149.6.148.205) 94.583 ms 94.831 ms 95.188 ms
4 te1-2.ccr02.lon02.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.50.117) 95.447 ms 95.348 ms 96.371 ms
5 te0-0-0-1.mpd22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.30.17) 167.920 ms 168.263 ms te9-2.mpd02.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.48.153) 170.587 ms
6 te4-3.ccr01.jfk07.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.62) 173.677 ms te0-0-0-1.mpd21.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.30.129) 121.906 ms 107.117 ms
7 gblx.jfk07.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.11.62) 112.920 ms 109.766 ms gblx.jfk07.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.14.70) 109.789 ms
8 NOPAS.ge-0-3-0.109.ar1.OSL1.gblx.net (64.211.166.110) 243.192 ms 242.315 ms 242.441 ms
9 c85-196-92-154.static.sdsl.no (85.196.92.154) 247.246 ms 247.504 ms 246.285 ms
10 alfa-1.fiber.dg.no (213.158.248.6) 244.915 ms 212.615 ms 212.492 ms
11 underworld.rizon.no (85.196.81.211) 214.586 ms 215.843 ms 215.434 ms
root@miyuki:/#
False alarm i guess. Thanks for your help tho :)
:welc: :karma:
I can't access it either, drop support an email.
Quote from: Maiku on Mar 17, 2010, 23:58:44
Anyone else having some problems tonight? For the last 20 minutes I cant get to Norway... :eyebrow:
You might want to try norwegian.no.
:welc: :karma: Maiku.
Quote from: mankatron2009 on Mar 18, 2010, 14:21:28
You might want to try norwegian.no.
LOL
I even went to that url thinking "oh a site in norway to try" which yes it is but also being the airline was very funny :thumb:
I've had a couple other instances since my first post where a site isnt reachable then it works about 20 mins later. I tested it via daveproxy which also couldn't get to it, I'm wondering if the LINX is quite 100% back to normal yet.
I havn't contacted support with it as I've already been bugging Simon with other questions recently lol.
Another proxy you might want to try is:
http://www.hidemyass.com/
A useful test is also at:
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
Quote from: Rik on Mar 19, 2010, 09:23:58
Another proxy you might want to try is:
http://www.hidemyass.com/
Does it come in different sizes? ;D
Large and extra large. ;D
Hi all
I've been having problems for the past few days, last night and tonight it's been on and off. I'm sync'd but last night, I couldn't get authorised. PPP? And tonight, it's connected but I'm getting packet loss on pings and web pages are loading / not loading. Changed my DNS entries just in case, but no joy.
Sorry for skim reading the topic, but is there / has there, been a hardware fault?
Not having much luck here. :dunno:
Thanks for any help. It's driving me loopy!
There was a blip affecting the hostlink, and there's been an issue with LINX causing routing failures, but both are resolved. You really need to talk to support if it's a PPP issue, as they will be able to see your line and what's happening from their end. I assume you haven't changed anything in your setup recently?
Quote from: Rik on Mar 19, 2010, 19:00:54
There was a blip affecting the hostlink, and there's been an issue with LINX causing routing failures, but both are resolved. You really need to talk to support if it's a PPP issue, as they will be able to see your line and what's happening from their end. I assume you haven't changed anything in your setup recently?
Hi Rik
Cheers for that. Again, sorry for not reading the whole thread. :whistle:
No, nothing's changed mate. I've recently been moved to ADSL2+ and I was about half way through the "training period". But it's been rock solid until this all started. Only settings I've changed was the DNS as when I saw Webpages were not loading I thought it maybe that. I've also had the Router turned off just in case.
I'll see how it fairs for the rest of the weekend and if it's no better I'll contact support in the morning.
Thanks again.
Where did you change DNS, Jimbo, router or Windows?
Quote from: Rik on Mar 19, 2010, 19:07:51
Where did you change DNS, Jimbo, router or Windows?
On my Router. :) Then I did a /flushdns in Windows and tried the Internet again. I have the NIC set to 'Obtain DNS Automatically'.
Is that correct?
Thanks.
I'd always recommend changing the DNS within Windows itself, Jimbo. That way, you don't force a re-sync and a potential PPP issue. Try changing the router back to picking up the DNS automatically and see if that helps.
Quote from: Rik on Mar 19, 2010, 19:13:46
I'd always recommend changing the DNS within Windows itself, Jimbo. That way, you don't force a re-sync and a potential PPP issue. Try changing the router back to picking up the DNS automatically and see if that helps.
Ahhh OK thanks mate. :thumb:
still experiencing some browsing problems here atm some sites are slow ie: ebay,autotrader ect some seems to be fine pings are fine :dunno:
Quote from: Ham on Mar 20, 2010, 00:43:33
still experiencing some browsing problems here atm some sites are slow ie: ebay,autotrader ect some seems to be fine pings are fine :dunno:
Things seem back to normal here, could it be your exchange? Or just site traffic being very high?
Edit: Just checked those sites and no issues here
No problems here, Ham. If the problem persists today, can you run a BT speed test and post the results please.
Quote from: Rik on Mar 20, 2010, 10:40:03
No problems here, Ham. If the problem persists today, can you run a BT speed test and post the results please.
seems ok today m8 will run a test if it gets bad again :thumb:
it's slow 2nite, im struggling to load some pages on getting half my usual 7meg download speed. any ideas?
If I had to guess I'd say exchange congestion which should dissappear as the evening wears on. However if it doesn't can you do BT speedtest? There's also been a LINX issue this week and I think the odd web site is still not resolving correctly. Personally I've had no issues lately and speeds are fine tonight
No problems here all day, cannot complain about these speeds.
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/755500547.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
I had about five mins down about 19:50 fine now.....
Could have been dns problems. I am on open dns. :dunno:
Downloads are fine this morning!! Downloaded 3 games from steam overnight.