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Title: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Terryphi on Mar 03, 2010, 07:15:52
Opera 10.50 for Windows is now released. Head over to http://www.opera.com/download to get your hands on it now.

Final editions for UNIX and Mac users are still being developed but the developers are making good progress.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 03, 2010, 09:42:00
Thanks, Terry.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: DorsetBoy on Mar 03, 2010, 10:26:45
And it is fabulous  ;D
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Steve on Mar 03, 2010, 10:50:39
Plenty of choice for quick browsers these days,why MS can't produce one doesn't make sense to me :thumb:
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Simon on Mar 03, 2010, 10:53:16
I'm sure they think they have.  ;)
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 03, 2010, 10:55:27
Maybe it's their tie-up with Intel?
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: dudwell on Mar 03, 2010, 11:36:12
Quote from: DorsetBoy on Mar 03, 2010, 10:26:45
And it is fabulous  ;D

But it still doesn't open all the pages of timesonline.co.uk , unlike IE8 and Firefox.

An example (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/letters/article7047035.ece)
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: dudwell on Mar 03, 2010, 11:40:34
Oops! It just opened my example. It didn't a moment ago!!
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 03, 2010, 11:42:45
That kind of thing usually happens to me. ;)
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: dudwell on Mar 03, 2010, 11:53:10
Opera is still liable to throw up "Error Page". Sometimes a second attempt works, sometimes not. I'll risk another example :fingers::-

Trying again (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/in_the_showroom/article6907138.ece)
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 03, 2010, 11:57:08
 :fingers: ;)
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Steve on Mar 03, 2010, 12:00:22
The turbo option can be a bit odd sometimes, I've had the Idnetters wap page showing sometimes.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 03, 2010, 12:07:30
Why on earth would it do that? To simply speed the display?
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Steve on Mar 03, 2010, 12:23:52
I am not sure but with the turbo option on the request is directed to the Opera servers,its not a consistent response but I've seen on a couple of occassions
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 03, 2010, 12:27:19
So, presumably, variable caching by them?
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Steve on Mar 03, 2010, 12:30:44
I don't understand it as the address is different. I do wish it would run on the iPhone, I'd love to try it :fingers:
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 03, 2010, 12:33:52
Do you think Apple would ever allow it?
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: DorsetBoy on Mar 03, 2010, 12:35:21
Quote from: dudwell on Mar 03, 2010, 11:36:12
But it still doesn't open all the pages of timesonline.co.uk , unlike IE8 and Firefox.

An example (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/letters/article7047035.ece)

Your computer maybe.......... that URL opens for me without any problem.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Glenn on Mar 03, 2010, 12:37:57
Quote from: Steve on Mar 03, 2010, 12:30:44
I don't understand it as the address is different. I do wish it would run on the iPhone, I'd love to try it :fingers:

Jailbreak it and you can try it  :evil:
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 03, 2010, 12:39:48
Don't encourage him, Glenn. Now, Seb is fair game.  :evil:
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: DorsetBoy on Mar 03, 2010, 12:41:47
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x72/CareyCrew/th_operatimes.png) (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x72/CareyCrew/operatimes.png)

Times online and Opera10.50
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 03, 2010, 12:50:23
I still can't get on with Opera, Dorset, I don't know why, but it just never felt right for me.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Inkblot on Mar 03, 2010, 13:22:17
Quote from: Rik on Mar 03, 2010, 12:50:23
I still can't get on with Opera, Dorset, I don't know why, but it just never felt right for me.

That's exactly how I feel about Firefox, I know it's a good browser but somehow I've never clicked with it so have always stuck with IE/Opera instead.

On a different note, I wonder how people will get on with all the new browsers Microsoft is having to offer us as a part of the EU case - 12 of them including some lesser know ones (Sleipnir or K-meleon anybody?) although apparently that's not enough choiuce as according to this  article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8545237.stm) more than 1/2 of them are based on the same rendering engine as IE apparently. What's the odds that people will end up with more spam, more viruses and claim that it is all Microsoft's fault.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 03, 2010, 15:31:59
Pretty good, I'd say, Inky. It's funny how browsers are such personal things though, isn't it.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Den on Mar 03, 2010, 17:27:19
It's great fun trying new browsers and then deciding that the one you usually use is actually the best. I have tried most over a period if time but always end up going back to IE as I still think they are the best. Now I suppose I will have to try the latest version of Opera just so I can try to find out why some one likes it. I still have the latest version of Firefox on my computer but very rarely use it.    ;D
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 03, 2010, 17:35:13
It keeps us young at heart, Den. :)
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: drummer on Mar 08, 2010, 20:51:17
I installed Opera 10.50 the other day as an upgrade to the currently installed version and I appear to have lost the File > Edit etc, dropdown menu items.  Right-clicking yields only Cusomise>Appearance options.  Using opera:config doesn't seem to show up anything useful either.

Keyboard shortcuts are still working for most of the missing items but they're a pain for a boring old browser.

Anyone else had this?
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: DarkStar on Mar 08, 2010, 23:21:50
Quote from: drummer on Mar 08, 2010, 20:51:17
I installed Opera 10.50 the other day as an upgrade to the currently installed version and I appear to have lost the File > Edit etc, dropdown menu items.  Right-clicking yields only Cusomise>Appearance options.  Using opera:config doesn't seem to show up anything useful either.

Keyboard shortcuts are still working for most of the missing items but they're a pain for a boring old browser.

Anyone else had this?
Left click on the red Opera (half hidden) icon up in the top left corner of the browser screen and in the drop down menu that appears click "Show Menu Bar" - this will give you the 'hidden' File, Edit etc.
Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Steve on Mar 08, 2010, 23:26:16
Thanks Darkstar  :thumb:
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: drummer on Mar 09, 2010, 00:40:44
Quote from: DarkStar on Mar 08, 2010, 23:21:50
Left click on the red Opera (half hidden) icon up in the top left corner of the browser screen and in the drop down menu that appears click "Show Menu Bar" - this will give you the 'hidden' File, Edit etc.
Hope that helps.

Left (and right) clicking on the red Opera icon offers the same limited choices, none of which is the the option to "Show Menu Bar".

It's also disabled my default skin and I can't get it back.

Thanks anyway DarkStar.

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Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: DorsetBoy on Mar 09, 2010, 06:18:41
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x72/CareyCrew/th_Opera1.png) (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x72/CareyCrew/Opera1.png)
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x72/CareyCrew/th_Opera2.png) (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x72/CareyCrew/Opera2.png)
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x72/CareyCrew/th_Opera3.png) (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x72/CareyCrew/Opera3.png)

Opera often removes skins that are not written for the latest version at upgrade, I just reinstate them manually.

Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: dudwell on Mar 09, 2010, 11:01:05
Thanks DorsetBoy for the very clear explanation which solved the problem for me anyway :thumb:
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: quandam on Mar 09, 2010, 11:18:06
Loving this version of Opera, a joy to use and quick too :thumb: Enjoying also the in built mail facility ;)
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: DarkStar on Mar 09, 2010, 11:25:53
Another thanks for the screenshot explanation DorsetBoy. Made My post as I was going to bed last so didn't have time to do any screenies.
I think the only thing that has annoyed me with the upgrade from Opera 10.10 to 10.50 has been that all my custom per site JavaScript settings have all been returned to the default and have spent the last couple of days resetting them as I visit the relevant sites. Other than that I use it nearly all the time now, I was a FireFox man but as I have got used to Opera I've liked it more and more.
It would also be nice if they would do something about making GoogleMail able to work properly.

Slightly off topic  :eek4: what screen grab software did you use, I normally find the default Windows PrintScreen sufficient but have been thinking of installing something more sophisticated for a while but never got round to it.
Any advice/opinions gratefully received  ;D
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: DorsetBoy on Mar 09, 2010, 11:55:46
Quote from: DarkStar on Mar 09, 2010, 11:25:53
Another thanks for the screenshot explanation DorsetBoy. Made My post as I was going to bed last so didn't have time to do any screenies.
I think the only thing that has annoyed me with the upgrade from Opera 10.10 to 10.50 has been that all my custom per site JavaScript settings have all been returned to the default and have spent the last couple of days resetting them as I visit the relevant sites. Other than that I use it nearly all the time now, I was a FireFox man but as I have got used to Opera I've liked it more and more.
It would also be nice if they would do something about making GoogleMail able to work properly.

Slightly off topic  :eek4: what screen grab software did you use, I normally find the default Windows PrintScreen sufficient but have been thinking of installing something more sophisticated for a while but never got round to it.
Any advice/opinions gratefully received  ;D

That was just "Print Screen" and then loaded into "Paint". In Vista and Win7 the "Snipping Tool actually gives a better screenshot,I was just too lazy at that time of AM to go into the Accessories menu so I just hit the keyboard button. ( Snipping Tool now added to TaskBar for next time )
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: drummer on Mar 09, 2010, 17:56:35
Thanks for the detailed reply DorsetBoy but I don't have the half-hidden logo anywhere (I thought DarkStar was referring to the normal icon that appears at the very top).

Oh well, I'll just keep plodding away with Ctrl+F12 until I find the answer.

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Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: DorsetBoy on Mar 09, 2010, 18:20:05
Well the only other thing I can think of is to run the Opera.exe again and select "Repair" to see if that helps,other than that Opera Community may have some comment on the problem.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: dudwell on Mar 09, 2010, 19:47:37
I'm puzzled that the Reload and Home icons shown in drummer's screenshot appear to be those of earlier Opera versions.

Are you quite sure you really do have Opera 10.50 drummer? Apologies if I'm seeming patronising....
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: DorsetBoy on Mar 09, 2010, 19:52:13
This Community Discussion (http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=448501) is running on the subject of the missing toolbar (and gives the reasons for removing it).

To make the Toolbar appear use the "Alt" button. If that fails then a reinstall seems to be required.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: drummer on Mar 09, 2010, 20:52:31
Quote from: DorsetBoy on Mar 09, 2010, 19:52:13
This Community Discussion (http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=448501) is running on the subject of the missing toolbar (and gives the reasons for removing it).

To make the Toolbar appear use the "Alt" button. If that fails then a reinstall seems to be required.

I found the Alt button suggestion on a different thread on the community forums and it worked.  You stole my thunder!   :laugh:  Seriously though, thanks for taking the time.

Incidentally, running the installer again didn't offer the repair option, just a "do you want to upgrade?" message.  Not a problem though as everything is now back to normal.

PS for dudwell - I reverted to an older skin from my existing skins folder which probably explains that.

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Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: D-Dan on Mar 09, 2010, 21:04:24
I tried it again - it lasted 10 minutes and got uninstalled. Guess I just don't like the way Opera works, or I especially like the way FF does. Whatever it is, I keep trying different versions and take an instant dislike to it.

Steve
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Gary on Mar 10, 2010, 08:05:02
Quote from: D-Dan on Mar 09, 2010, 21:04:24
I tried it again - it lasted 10 minutes and got uninstalled. Guess I just don't like the way Opera works, or I especially like the way FF does. Whatever it is, I keep trying different versions and take an instant dislike to it.

Steve
I tried it again on my wifes laptop, it came off it quickly, for some reason I have never been able to feel at home with Opera, indecently last years safest browser to use was IE8! It blocked  81% of Malware it also blocked 83% of phishing URLs , FF trailing second with 27% and 80% for those two categories, followed by Safari, 21% Chrome 7% and Opera 10 1% for Malware, Chrome fared better for Phishing at 26% Opera 10 at 54% and safari at 2%. How times change.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: DorsetBoy on Mar 10, 2010, 09:08:52
Quote from: Gary on Mar 10, 2010, 08:05:02
I tried it again on my wifes laptop, it came off it quickly, for some reason I have never been able to feel at home with Opera, indecently last years safest browser to use was IE8! It blocked  81% of Malware it also blocked 83% of phishing URLs , FF trailing second with 27% and 80% for those two categories, followed by Safari, 21% Chrome 7% and Opera 10 1% for Malware, Chrome fared better for Phishing at 26% Opera 10 at 54% and safari at 2%. How times change.

The first couple of times I tried Opera I gave up as I couldn't find things............ tried again a few months later and have never left,for me now none of the other browsers feel right, Opera has everything I need in logical places and there is a wealth of extras if I wanted them.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Gary on Mar 10, 2010, 09:18:35
Quote from: DorsetBoy on Mar 10, 2010, 09:08:52
The first couple of times I tried Opera I gave up as I couldn't find things............ tried again a few months later and have never left,for me now none of the other browsers feel right, Opera has everything I need in logical places and there is a wealth of extras if I wanted them.
I can find all I want, I just never got on with it, I agree its a great browser in many ways, if a little lax in its protection, but I just do not like it and I really don't know why, same with chrome, I'm happy with FF and Safari on my mac for now  :)
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 10, 2010, 10:13:52
Another "I just couldn't get on with it" here. Opera should rename itself Marmite. :)
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Gary on Mar 10, 2010, 10:22:54
Quote from: Rik on Mar 10, 2010, 10:13:52
Another "I just couldn't get on with it" here. Opera should rename itself Marmite. :)
Actually that if not already taken would be a great name for software, considering we already have toast  ;D
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 10, 2010, 10:24:35
 ;D

I see Donald Russell pave rump has had an update to v1.01.  :hehe:
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Glenn on Mar 10, 2010, 12:10:22
Are they using a different cow, now?
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 10, 2010, 12:20:03
Naah, that's a load of old bull.  ;D
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Glenn on Mar 10, 2010, 13:22:17
Are you trying to steer the thread away from the original topic.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Steve on Mar 10, 2010, 13:54:08
No, just miking it for all he can.
Title: Re: Opera 10.50 for Windows is released
Post by: Rik on Mar 10, 2010, 16:01:02
There was an OT? By post 49, that's long forgotten. ;D