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Title: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 06, 2007, 11:48:45
As per title, i will explain more (in another reply!) if anyone has used it before!
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: rgt247 on Mar 06, 2007, 12:04:05
I have used it for over a year now currently on v5
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 06, 2007, 12:07:20
I've used it, Avenger, but had problems with it which they acknowledge and had down for a future fix, unspecified date. I moved on. Can't remember what the problem was now, but my memory may get jogged...
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 06, 2007, 12:25:35
Well, ive used 4 for a while. I havent bothered to put it on my new install yet, as im waiting for V5 Non beta to come out!

Anyway, i remember it using quite a bit of memory etc, due to this "onguard" thing, although turned off, the program still sits in your processes.Any idea how to turn the damm thing off? I only want it active when i want to scan! ;)
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 06, 2007, 12:32:37
Have you run MSCONFIG to see what it loads at startup? I moved on to Webroot's SpySweeper after my problems with the Doc (not the forum member :) ), and found it did the same. Like you, I only want to scan when I feel the need, not having the thing sitting there hogging the system all the time. I disabled all its start up options, services and programs, and it's quite happy to start up when I need it (though it doesn't fully go away again until a re-boot).
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: rgt247 on Mar 06, 2007, 12:33:43
Thats why i upgraded to v5 link (http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Spyware_Doctor/1087491686/1) to stop the scans when it starts up. If you go to network guard click cancel to stop the scans. I find that it starts back up after a min or just keep clicking cancel till they stop.

On v5 I do not have this problem. The betas recently have improved. Much more stable. The first one I tried gave a BSOD on boot up.  :(
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 06, 2007, 12:36:11
Thanks for the info :)

A newsletter i got (dated 24th feb) was estimating the release a week later..which was obviously wrong! - you wouldnt happen to know how wrong would you? - Ive had bad experiences with beta's, and with this new XP install im "being very, very carefull" ;)
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: rgt247 on Mar 06, 2007, 12:42:26
I had the same email. I don't think it will be long now before it's released properly.  :)
Running now with no problems for me. The scans are much faster.
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: William on Mar 06, 2007, 20:38:27
Quote from: rikbean on Mar 06, 2007, 12:32:37
Have you run MSCONFIG

Even better is Autoruns (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx) from Sysinternals (don't let the M$ wrapper put you off).
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 07, 2007, 00:08:06
Thanks for that link, William, a handy little utility.
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: mrapoc on Mar 07, 2007, 19:15:40
I feel free anti spyware programs do just about enough - with a bit of common sense too  :laugh: No more dodgy sites for you!
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 07, 2007, 19:34:31
Does that mean I have to stop visiting here?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 09, 2007, 21:34:52
Hmmm,

Still considering getting/trying NOD32. In your personal experience, would running my current setup: AVG Free with Spyware Doctor or just running NOD32.. which one would be:

1) More effecitve and "safe"
2) Less resource hungry
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: William on Mar 10, 2007, 09:01:21
No contest. NOD32 on both counts.
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: jupiter on Mar 10, 2007, 09:08:29
Absolutely agree.  Been delighted with NOD32 over several months now.  AVG (which I still have on a laptop) tends to have server hangups on updates from time to time, then fails to update and not let you know.
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 10, 2007, 10:15:45
Do you think there's a risk we will be labelled NOD32 fanboys? :)

I've been using it a couple of years and it's the best AV I have ever used. I've now consolidated my three licences into one, to make it easier to manage. Eset were very helpful in doing this for me. Of course, it also has a great support forum here (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?s=690f5d846270c67517868da5fe02e147&f=16).
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 10, 2007, 10:55:25
Well, you've persuaded me to try it ;)

Would it be "better" to try the trail first, or just perchase it? Ive done some reasearch apart from listening to the fan boys ;) - and it cirtinally seems one of the best solutions.

(note: guessing i have to "uninstall" avg first, im just hoping it "unistalls" properly ;) )
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 10, 2007, 11:39:49
Hi Avenger

Go for the trial, you can upgrade it to the full product by purchasing a licence. Do visit the support forum I noted, and read Blackspear's tips on setup, they make a world of difference.

You will need to uninstall AVG first, but I don't think that's too bad, it's the big boys that try to take your system over and not let go. I will no longer use Norton products as a result. :(
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 10, 2007, 14:05:03
"Antivirus MONitor (AMON)
An on-access (memory-resident) scanner, which automatically scans files before they're accessed.

NOD32
An on-demand scanner, which can be run manually on specific files or disk segments. It can also be scheduled to run during off-peak times.

Internet MONitor (IMON)
A memory-resident scanner that runs on the Winsock level to prevent infected files from reaching the computer's disks. Its scans internet web browsing traffic (HTTP) and incoming e-mail via the POP3 protocol.

E-mail MONitor (EMON)
An auxiliary module for scanning incoming/outgoing e-mails via the MAPI interface, such as Microsoft Outlook Microsoft Exchange.

Document MONitor (DMON)
Utilizes the proprietary Microsoft API for scanning Microsoft Office documents (including Internet Explorer)"

Is it possible to disable some of these? I have no use for the DMON (dont use office or IE!), Email (dont use that either...) or Internet monitor (i can see this causing "issues" with games and alike..)
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: William on Mar 10, 2007, 17:19:05
Yes.

You can 'unload' them as part of the set-up.

Imon won't interfere with anything except when you visit sites that try to download nasties (technical term).

Try it  - you've nothing to lose and I think that you will be pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 10, 2007, 17:47:34
Thanks William. Ill try Imon then :) - Leaving EMON and DMON off however.
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 10, 2007, 17:49:00
I agree with William, DMON and EMON are superfluous if you don't use MS Office. Personally, I'd recommend leaving IMON active. For expert advice, ask here (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?s=690f5d846270c67517868da5fe02e147&f=16) though.

In the time I've been using NOD, I haven't seen any impact but I have seen some warnings, not just from files but from sites, since it does have an element of malware protection built in. From the Eset website, "This program offers integrated, real-time protection against viruses, worms, trojans, spyware, adware, phishing, and hackers. It features ThreatSense® Technology and protects single computers and networks alike against more new and evolving threats ". In my experience, this is very true, and it's IMON that provides the extra protection.
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 10, 2007, 18:40:31
I have AMON, IMON and NOD32 activated according to the side menu :)

This scheduling has me confused however:

http://www.avengeruk.co.uk/esetnodsettings.JPG (http://www.avengeruk.co.uk/esetnodsettings.JPG)

What do these mean? I dont want updates/scans to be run at startup - im a impatient fool ;)

EDIT: Also noticed that IMON scans what firefox is loading, and AMON scans cookies.txt etc - what a good idea!

EDIT: Just run a full NOD32 scan - found nothing but locked files (which im assuming should be locked!)

Am i right in thinking it find spyware/malware aswell via this scan?

If it *works* when it finds something (sure it does...anything is better than avg when they find something, avg just falls over at that point!) im extremely happy with it.

+1 to fan boys...
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: mrapoc on Mar 10, 2007, 18:57:20
Try safe mode b4 scanning dude  :P Less locked files then. Only thing nod32 doesnt block well is spyware but anything from trojans to viruses to backdoors to worms, nod32 will pwn  8)
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 10, 2007, 19:08:53
Quote from: AvengerUK on Mar 10, 2007, 18:40:31
I have AMON, IMON and NOD32 activated according to the side menu :)

This scheduling has me confused however:

What do these mean? I dont want updates/scans to be run at startup - im a impatient fool ;)

I run those on all my machines, Avenger, and tbh I've never noticed an impact. You don't have the update checking showing there, but that may be a 'feature' of the trial version.

QuoteEDIT: Just run a full NOD32 scan - found nothing but locked files (which im assuming should be locked!)

There's a bunch of files, like pagefile.sys, which Windows keeps locked, not a sign of a problem, but you can check a few more if you scan from safe mode as Mo says. I wouldn't worry though if the files are all system files.

QuoteAm i right in thinking it find spyware/malware aswell via this scan?

Not that I've ever seen, but then it's always alerted in real time and stopped anything nasty arriving, so I can't be sure.
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 10, 2007, 19:13:37
Ok, thanks rik ;) - ill leave it on its own for now then!

Note: AMON can interfere with games a little, depending on how much info your game loads. However, it has a "exclude folder/file" option - which is simply great!
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 10, 2007, 19:31:54
I'll have to take your word on that Avenger. The nearest I come to a game is playing Solitaire when I'm really bored. :)
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 10, 2007, 19:37:52
hehe ;) - well, for once the "fan boys" of something are "fan boys" for a good reason ;)
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: mrapoc on Mar 10, 2007, 19:47:21
That reminds me, time to reinstall 2142 aka, Glitchmaster 3000
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 10, 2007, 20:12:11
Heh :)
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 10, 2007, 21:25:01
Just one thing to add, that ive noticed since installtion of NOD32 - On shutdown, the FDD is accessed 3 times. Not a problem, just a observation ;)
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 11, 2007, 01:57:59
You have a FDD? :)

AMON > Setup > uncheck diskette.
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 11, 2007, 08:37:49
Thanks rik :)

You never know...that FDD could be quite usefull at times :)

(actually, it gathers dust! - Only used it to load "boot it ng"!)
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 11, 2007, 11:10:48
I know what you mean, just once in a while something comes along, usually at boot time, that demands a floppy. However, I usually find that, by the time I need one, it has gathered so much dust as to be unusable (diskettes are getting quite hard to find too!), so I keep a USB floppy drive in the cupboard.
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 11, 2007, 15:29:36
Unticking diskette doesnt do it rik, however unticking either "check on shutdown" or unticking the other box under deskette does it!

Should also note that ive decided i mayaswell go ahead and buy it :) - it doesnt take long to impress me ;)
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 11, 2007, 19:07:26
Glad to hear it, Avenger - you took about as long to decide as I did. :)
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 22, 2007, 18:03:05
Just a quick question...

Now that spyware doctor 5 has been fully released, should i install that aswell?

I mean, Eset's threat engine also handles spyware etc apparently...not sure if that matters or not in use with a diff spyware scanner?
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 22, 2007, 18:11:41
I didn't stick long with SD, Avenger, as I found a few problems with it. I now use Webroot's SpySweeper, and run that once a week or so, I don't have it running in the background, NOD gets most things, I just let Sweeper try and find anything that's left, which it very rarely does.
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 22, 2007, 18:14:56
Ok rik - ill have to dig out those instructions someone gave me on how to turn SD's background processes off..(in the forum here somewhere)!
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 22, 2007, 18:20:22
Or check their website?
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 22, 2007, 18:22:42
Or that ;)
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: rgt247 on Mar 22, 2007, 19:43:47
Hi

I have upgraded to v5 now 5.0.0.169 the quick scan ran in 5 mins. Seems ok so far will keep you updated if I have any problems........
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 22, 2007, 20:40:25
Installed it :)

Seems to be ok now, but at first my Inet went (computer couldnt load any pages etc) then a NOD32 service crashed, then Firefox crashed...then IMON said "Repaired settings something or other" - and now working again :S.

Might of been because Firewall was stopping SD update (blocking) and i clicked cancel by mistake on NOD's update...

...Just hope it wasnt anything nasty / caused anything nasty!
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 23, 2007, 09:02:37
It sounds like the experience I had with SD. It's why it's an ex-program on my machine. I hope yours is OK though.
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 23, 2007, 09:12:31
I think it must of been my firewall..true SD shouldnt of failed if my firewall blocked it...but, then again...most software does ;)

Active gaurd settings are off, which is a good start :)

I just hope the settings IMON said it had changed/restored didnt mess anything up, not to mention NOD crashing in a update!
Title: Re: Anyone with experience of Spyware Doctor?
Post by: Rik on Mar 23, 2007, 09:15:19
If you're concerned about NOD, Avenger, go here (http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm) and test it with EICAR.