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Title: windows 7 users....
Post by: Baz on Jan 28, 2010, 18:56:59
....what AV are you using at the moment.My son has just bought a new laptop with W7 on and is looking for some decent anti virus.he used Avira on his XP machine but wants to try new,downloaded Avast and did a run,full scan and it took over 2 hours.For a new machine with nothing on seems a long time, dont know why he did a scan but he did.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Lona on Jan 28, 2010, 19:03:52
I bought a new laptop for xmas and installed Avast (free version) and it scanned super fast.  Can't understand why it took 2 hrs. ???
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Steve on Jan 28, 2010, 19:05:43
Microsoft Security Essentials seems popular at the moment and its free.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Glenn on Jan 28, 2010, 19:07:37
Quote from: Lona on Jan 28, 2010, 19:03:52
I bought a new laptop for xmas and installed Avast (free version) and it scanned super fast.  Can't understand why it took 2 hrs. ???

+1
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Baz on Jan 28, 2010, 19:08:41
Quote from: Glenn on Jan 28, 2010, 19:07:37
+1


Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Glenn on Jan 28, 2010, 19:48:39
Baz, I was agreeing about using Avast, not the 2hr scan.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Baz on Jan 28, 2010, 20:02:04
 ;D ;D  sorry Glenn  didnt get that one
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Halfmad on Jan 28, 2010, 22:04:37
Quote from: Steve on Jan 28, 2010, 19:05:43
Microsoft Security Essentials seems popular at the moment and its free.

+1, I've also installed it on my two laptops too.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: psp83 on Jan 29, 2010, 00:27:59
Eset for me.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: gizmo71 on Jan 29, 2010, 09:48:02
MSE for me.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Inkblot on Jan 29, 2010, 10:43:45
MSE for me too
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Ray on Jan 29, 2010, 10:47:54
F-Secure here.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Simon on Jan 29, 2010, 12:35:04
F-Secure here too, but not on Windows 7.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: bobleslie on Jan 29, 2010, 12:42:15
MSE for me too X 6.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Den on Jan 29, 2010, 17:55:23
I've taken the plunge and installed a 90 day free trial of Norton Internet Security 2010 on my desk top and left MSE on my lap top. If things stay as they are over the weekend I will purchase the special deal from PC world because to be honest I am so impressed with it. It runs so smoothly and does not encroach at all, it also checks emails and spyware and I have not had a single problem unlike Kaspersky.   ;D
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Sebby on Jan 29, 2010, 17:57:42
Next you'll be telling me McAfee is good. :)x
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Rik on Jan 29, 2010, 17:58:36
It's when he starts saying McAfee is god that we really have to worry, Seb. ;)
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Sebby on Jan 29, 2010, 17:59:15
;D
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Lona on Jan 29, 2010, 18:00:21
Quote from: Den on Jan 29, 2010, 17:55:23
I've taken the plunge and installed a 90 day free trial of Norton Internet Security 2010 on my desk top and left MSE on my lap top. If things stay as they are over the weekend I will purchase the special deal from PC world because to be honest I am so impressed with it. It runs so smoothly and does not encroach at all, it also checks emails and spyware and I have not had a single problem unlike Kaspersky.   ;D

Wait till they ask you for more money after you've had it a year.  I thought when you bought Norton that was it.  Wrong
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: john on Jan 29, 2010, 18:14:56
I'm running MSE and Avast (together with some remnanats of McAffee that came as a trial when I bought the laptop) and running XP.

They say that there should only be one AV app as there may be some conflicts but they seem to be working okay.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Steve on Jan 29, 2010, 18:20:00
I had NIS2009 on a netbook and initially I was impressed,  the machine seemed undisturbed by it. I did run into trouble some months later with product updates not installing and I eventually gave up with it and indeed I ended with a completely different OS. So you could say that without Norton I wouldn't have bought a Mac :whistle:
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Rik on Jan 29, 2010, 18:22:26
Any excuse, eh Steve? ;)
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Den on Jan 29, 2010, 19:14:27
Oh my God, this does not mean I've got to buy a Mac does it   :o

I just wanted to have a package that covers all and I never thought it would be Norton but I felt a 90day trial was worth installing as it seems that it is now easy to uninstall. So far it's been a pleasant surprise but we shall wait and see and I will report back.

It's just nice to see that every one on here keeps an open mind about things (if you don't like something in the past you wont like in the future and if it is updated it must be faulty and if they don't then they don't care about problems).   >:D
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Steve on Jan 29, 2010, 19:47:33
You mean you admire our lack of prejudice and open mindedness ;)
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Den on Jan 29, 2010, 20:29:56
Quote from: Steve on Jan 29, 2010, 19:47:33
You mean you admire our lack of prejudice and open mindedness ;)

Close, you just have prejudice and open mindedness in the wrong places   ;D
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Gary on Jan 29, 2010, 20:36:11
The new Norton gets good reviews and has to be less buggy than Kaspersky at that detection level for a full suite. It comes out top of the bunch and now uninstalls cleanly, its just Norton of old that people remember having used a machine with it on it was light and fast, I did not like the toolbar though but that's a hold you hand feature which is not a bad thing for some PC users in this day and age as far as security goes, Norton by all accounts is not the beast it was it was re written completely. @ Lona it tells you it will take payments each year and you can stop that if you wish, it did on a friends machine and it tells you clearly when you install it, I think its wrong, but you have to read what's being said on installs.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Sebby on Jan 29, 2010, 22:12:22
Quote from: Den on Jan 29, 2010, 19:14:27
Oh my God, this does not mean I've got to buy a Mac does it   :o

A Mac would be no good for you because you wouldn't be able to waste time trying a new antivirus each week.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: drummer on Jan 29, 2010, 23:31:30
Quote from: Sebby on Jan 29, 2010, 22:12:22
A Mac would be no good for you because you wouldn't be able to waste time trying a new antivirus each week.
:zip:
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: wecpcs on Jan 29, 2010, 23:43:45
Quote from: Den on Jan 29, 2010, 17:55:23
I've taken the plunge and installed a 90 day free trial of Norton Internet Security 2010 on my desk top and left MSE on my lap top. If things stay as they are over the weekend I will purchase the special deal from PC world because to be honest I am so impressed with it. It runs so smoothly and does not encroach at all, it also checks emails and spyware and I have not had a single problem unlike Kaspersky.   ;D

I also find it excellent and as mine is up for renewal in about 45 days, I have just purchased another full retail copy (not upgrade) from WHSmiths online at half the cost of an online renewal from Symantec via the program, which I will be activating by entering my new number the day my current one finishes. If they bring out a new version during your current subscription to can get a free upgrade to the new version.

Ignore those Norton critics as they obviously have not tried Norton's recently, as I was indeed one of those myself, but the "proof of the pudding is in the eating". Sorry Rik for bringing food into it. Norton's have improved from the introduction of the 2009 version onwards. The 2008 version I was given free by a trade magazine I receive, used a lot of system resources as did other previous versions from as long as I can remember.

Colin
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Gary on Jan 30, 2010, 00:18:48
Quote from: drummer on Jan 29, 2010, 23:31:30
:zip:
Well you don't as of yet, there are trojans but few are far between, the main reason for an aV on OSX is to protect Winodows ysers from viruses that macs ca pass on, which as I see it is what a windows AV is for, but with the growth in Macs in the last year and the increased percentage a decent AV may be needed before the year is out. Integro x6 is now nasty and bloated, clamXav is not great, Eset are in beta and Kaspersky have a really buggy one out, most are needed if you run windows on your mac so as of right now for myself with FF, software firewall and hardware firewall adblock plus and no script I am not overly worried, but as i said that may change this year.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: somanyholes on Jan 30, 2010, 07:34:30
ohh dear. When is this ever going to end. Do mac users not look at all the bugfixes they get (the ones that are published at least). Do they not see it is based on unix software that is full of holes. Do they expect to have a bouncing icon on their desktop saying you may have strange code on your system, How do they know they are so secure. Do they analyse their systems, sniff traffic. There used to be a day when mac users actually knew how to use the command line, most these days only know a pretty gui. Why are their systems so secure... Because they where told this. But of course we don't get worms! Yeah sure this must mean nothing can open sockets on your box or abuse one of the many buggy applications that exist on the platform. But we don't run as root! Of course i forgot that that are absolutely no ways that anyone can do local exploits on the system to do privilige esculation (sarcasm here).

If someone targets a mac user they are going to gain access if they are persistant/patient. Sure it may take a bit of work, but at least they can be sure that 99% of mac users will be blissfully unaware in that mac bubble that they live in.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Gary on Jan 30, 2010, 08:32:37
Quote from: somanyholes on Jan 30, 2010, 07:34:30
ohh dear. When is this ever going to end. Do mac users not look at all the bugfixes they get (the ones that are published at least). Do they not see it is based on unix software that is full of holes. Do they expect to have a bouncing icon on their desktop saying you may have strange code on your system, How do they know they are so secure. Do they analyse their systems, sniff traffic. There used to be a day when mac users actually knew how to use the command line, most these days only know a pretty gui. Why are their systems so secure... Because they where told this. But of course we don't get worms! Yeah sure this must mean nothing can open sockets on your box or abuse one of the many buggy applications that exist on the platform. But we don't run as root! Of course i forgot that that are absolutely no ways that anyone can do local exploits on the system to do privilige esculation (sarcasm here).

If someone targets a mac user they are going to gain access if they are persistant/patient. Sure it may take a bit of work, but at least they can be sure that 99% of mac users will be blissfully unaware in that mac bubble that they live in.

Sorry to be blunt but there are ways of saying things in a constructive manner, the above post is not one of those ways, it comes across as very condescending tbh.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: somanyholes on Jan 30, 2010, 08:50:48
sorry but condescending is what mac users are particularly good at, especially regarding security.......

Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Simon on Jan 30, 2010, 08:54:59
Let's not get into another platform war, guys.  :no:
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Gary on Jan 30, 2010, 09:10:20
Quote from: somanyholes on Jan 30, 2010, 08:50:48
sorry but condescending is what mac users are particularly good at, especially regarding security.......


That is a huge generalisation, I take it you know every Mac user in the world and their security habits? Your post is rude it was not needed and comes across as being far from neutral and helpful considering your security status on the forum, but more about having a dig at Apple because of your personal preferences, as Simon says I do not wish to participate in a platform war. All I want to say is dont assume you know peoples security habits by the platform they use, especially when it appears it may stem from a personal dislike of Apple, and Mac users in general.

This is all I am going to say on the subject.
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Steve on Jan 30, 2010, 09:40:38
Well that seems to have cleared the morning air,no more please!
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Den on Jan 30, 2010, 10:29:30
I thought we set up a section on the forum for Mac users and not on a thread for Windows 7  :dunno:
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Rik on Jan 30, 2010, 10:30:40
Let's leave it there guys...
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Den on Jan 30, 2010, 10:42:25
 ;D ;)   Live and let live I say  8-)
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Gary on Jan 30, 2010, 10:50:52
Quote from: Den on Jan 30, 2010, 10:42:25
;D ;)   Live and let live I say  8-)
Isn't that a bond film?  ;D
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Den on Jan 30, 2010, 13:39:03
I've just been to PC World and bought Norton Secuity 2019 Performance Pack which includes Norton Utilities reduced from £59.99 to £29.99 for three users. Looks like a good deal as someplaces are selling the version without utilities for the same price. Oddly Currys are selling the standard version at £59.99 but Norton 360 Ver 3 for £29.99 but not convince me that it was 2010 and not 2009 so I left it.    ;D
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Glenn on Jan 30, 2010, 13:58:38
Quote from: Den on Jan 30, 2010, 13:39:03
I've just been to PC World and bought Norton Secuity 2019 Performance Pack which includes Norton Utilities reduced from £59.99 to £29.99 for three users. Looks like a good deal as someplaces are selling the version without utilities for the same price. Oddly Currys are selling the standard version at £59.99 but Norton 360 Ver 3 for £29.99 but not convince me that it was 2010 and not 2009 so I left it.    ;D

I know magzines have a habit of publishing early, but 9 years early  :eek4:
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Simon on Jan 30, 2010, 15:23:05
 ;D
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Rik on Jan 30, 2010, 15:57:00
:lol: :thumb:
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Ray on Jan 30, 2010, 15:58:27
 ;D
Title: Re: windows 7 users....
Post by: Den on Jan 30, 2010, 16:02:10
Told you it was a bargain  ;D

Any one used the latest Norton Utilities (what ever the year is) ?     :whistle: