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Title: NOD32 updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 04, 2007, 15:18:46
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Title: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 05, 2007, 01:20:36
Apologies:

In my efforts to tidy up the Update thread, I discovered that by removing posts, I inadvertently knocked back users' post counts (including my own!). To avoid this happening again, I shall, in future, start a new updates thread on the 1st of each month and lock the old one. If I forget, please feel free to kick me. :)
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 05, 2007, 09:46:58
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 05, 2007, 13:16:29
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 05, 2007, 14:28:52
Your back  ;D
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 05, 2007, 15:22:17
I was never away. ;)
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 05, 2007, 22:04:09
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 06, 2007, 12:36:23
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 06, 2007, 12:49:51
You've definitely got the fast connection to Eset, Siege. :)
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 06, 2007, 13:06:20
Click, click  :)
also helps when watching top gear on UKTV g2
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 06, 2007, 17:42:05
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 06, 2007, 18:13:35
Oddly, I got that a few days ago, Rob. Eset's servers do seem a little unpredictable - the only criticism I have against the program.
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: RobMc on Mar 06, 2007, 18:19:09
lol, and there was me thinking I was posting something new  :-\

The updates come through thick and fast which is the main thing :)

Rob.
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 06, 2007, 18:22:33
Indeed it is. :)
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 07, 2007, 09:34:38
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 07, 2007, 17:27:05
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 08, 2007, 09:57:59
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 08, 2007, 16:53:35
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 09, 2007, 00:09:38
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 09, 2007, 14:04:16
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 10, 2007, 09:54:48
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: mrapoc on Mar 10, 2007, 20:24:11
Lol surely you all have it on autoupdate? I dont see the point in listing every single of their 5 a day updates....also remember to eat 5 a day, drink 5 pints a day and make 5 witty remarks  :-X  :D
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 11, 2007, 01:53:36
That's why I'm running the poll (http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,1899.msg31453.html#msg31453), to see if people want this thread to continue now that it's become NOD only (plus Patch Wednesday). :)
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 11, 2007, 10:55:46
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 12, 2007, 10:15:58
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 12, 2007, 16:15:18
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 12, 2007, 21:08:39
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 13, 2007, 10:48:25
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 13, 2007, 12:28:47
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Lance on Mar 13, 2007, 19:34:40
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 14, 2007, 12:38:10
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 14, 2007, 16:54:21
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 14, 2007, 21:43:48
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 15, 2007, 13:54:49
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 16, 2007, 08:10:44
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 16, 2007, 09:11:18
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 16, 2007, 10:12:04
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Eset are very busy this morning!
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 16, 2007, 13:58:14
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 16, 2007, 14:33:14
Hi Rik

and very busy this afternoon.
as well as me
Out looking for a certain perfume 39 pounds for 25 ml
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 16, 2007, 14:36:27
Ouch, that sort of price hurts!
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 16, 2007, 14:55:38
ps I did obtain the Item From Boots at Arniston Centre DURHAM CITY also first tried the Chester-le-street one first , no look there..

Very good perfume :-)

Birthday Present's..
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 17, 2007, 01:25:59
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 17, 2007, 16:07:06
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: AvengerUK on Mar 17, 2007, 19:22:39
I cant beleive im going to be finally able to post one!! (always beaten!)

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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 17, 2007, 20:53:34
LOL, no but being serious, I you have found an update that some persons have not then Good one for finding and posting it, :-)
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 18, 2007, 10:32:48
Quote from: AvengerUK on Mar 17, 2007, 19:22:39
I cant believe im going to be finally able to post one!! (always beaten!)

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Congratulations, Avenger. That has to be worth a karma. :)
Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 18, 2007, 12:43:44
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 19, 2007, 11:40:08
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Title: Re: Updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 20, 2007, 00:04:17
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 20, 2007, 11:56:04
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 21, 2007, 08:32:32
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 21, 2007, 13:06:31
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 21, 2007, 14:29:45
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 21, 2007, 21:11:24
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 22, 2007, 06:57:16
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 22, 2007, 13:00:27
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 22, 2007, 14:00:11
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Lance on Mar 22, 2007, 20:31:20
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Thats my first for a while!
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 23, 2007, 07:59:47
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 23, 2007, 10:59:24
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 23, 2007, 13:59:51
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 24, 2007, 00:32:58
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 24, 2007, 11:25:44
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 25, 2007, 10:08:43
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 25, 2007, 15:42:36
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 26, 2007, 12:34:03
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 27, 2007, 09:47:50
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 27, 2007, 14:25:22
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 27, 2007, 18:00:53
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 28, 2007, 15:13:30
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 28, 2007, 15:15:00
Fast.............. ;D
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 28, 2007, 15:27:59
Just loitering. :)
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 28, 2007, 16:06:25
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 28, 2007, 16:29:09
Bit like buses, you wait ages for one then two come along... :)
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 28, 2007, 18:20:53
yes, also the updates havent being coming in as much as they normally do, are is this only my thought.. :)
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 28, 2007, 18:22:11
I think it's a case of we get them when we need them. Things must have been quiet on the virus front for a few hours. If we were using Norton, we'd have no idea!
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 28, 2007, 18:30:35
quiet yes, the virus writers must have saw the good weather "not global" then went out into the sunshine  :)
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 28, 2007, 22:11:15
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 29, 2007, 12:10:40
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 30, 2007, 01:29:44
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Inactive on Mar 30, 2007, 01:51:18
SpyBot S+D update 28/3/07
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 30, 2007, 03:05:24
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: RobMc on Mar 30, 2007, 10:03:06
As this thread is nothing more than a game to see who can post the latest NOD32 virus signature first, surely it should be moved to the gaming section? If anyone wants to know what the latest NOD32 update is, it can be found here: http://www.eset.com/support/updates.php (http://www.eset.com/support/updates.php)

Rob.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 30, 2007, 10:04:18
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 30, 2007, 10:29:16
Quote from: RobMc on Mar 30, 2007, 10:03:06
As this thread is nothing more than a game to see who can post the latest NOD32 virus signature first, surely it should be moved to the gaming section? If anyone wants to know what the latest NOD32 update is, it can be found here: http://www.eset.com/support/updates.php (http://www.eset.com/support/updates.php)

Rob.

Hi Rob

We have discussed this before. I don't consider it a game to post the latest update, it's here as a service, just as my post of the latest Java update is. As I've said previously, we could refer people to other sites for all updates, but I believe it useful to have as much information here as possible. I took on your comments earlier in the month, and separated the NOD/AV updates from other software updates to try and help.

I have another reason for running the NOD version number. From time to time, on the official support forum for NOD, I see posts from people having problems with updates not working correctly. By having the latest version posted here, members can check easily that their own systems are working correctly.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: RobMc on Mar 30, 2007, 15:37:50
Well Rik I don't agree. Only 5 people said yes to the poll that you ran. 5 people said no, and we can assume the other 400+ members of the forum had no reason to vote yes. It's not a service that is useful to, or relevant to IDNet and I can't see how it can be seen as General Computer Help.

If you aren't getting downloads correctly then the best place to confirm this is on the official Support Website http://www.eset.com/support/updates.php (http://www.eset.com/support/updates.php) or is it too much trouble to go there to find out the official line? By all means people should be welcome to post here when they are having problems with updates but that is not the nature of this thread.

Seriously, why do we need to have an unofficial thread on this forum to track a piece of software that is very well supported on the official company website?

Rob.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Inactive on Mar 30, 2007, 15:54:52
I tend to agree with your comments Rob, if the downloads were not automatic ones, then perhaps the thread would be valid, I use AVG, not NOD, and that auto-updates daily, so no point in posting updates, if it is out of date the task bar logo goes from colour to black and white, surely NOD must have a similar warning system built in.



My update ( above ) for Spy-Bot S&D was perhaps justified, as this doesn't auto update, however, it isn't the end of the world if it isn't bang up to date.

Just my 2p's worth.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 30, 2007, 15:58:51
Hi Rob

Hi Rob

On that basis, presumably you would abandon all update notifications as they are available from other sources? Or is it just the NOD updates that bother you?

I have previously given you my view that, with a small, tied, poll, I planned to continue to allow the thread, but I did try to find a compromise and split virus updates from other software updates. I thought from your post in that poll, here (http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,1899.msg32286.html#msg32286), that you were reasonably happy with that concept. However, it seems that this is no longer the case.

As I have said, someone has to make a decision in this situation as to what to do, and I decided that I would continue support for NOD (or any other AV) updates. If you remain unhappy, I can only suggest you PM Adam, as he is the ultimate arbiter in the forum.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 30, 2007, 16:05:47
Quote from: Inactive on Mar 30, 2007, 15:54:52
surely NOD must have a similar warning system built in.

Afaik, Inactive, NOD does not warn if it's out-of-date - this may be because I have never seen an out-of-date copy, or it simply does not warn. I do see occasional threads on the NOD support forum about users having problems with their copy of NOD not updating, and it's for this reason that I have kept the thread running.

In an ideal world, what I would like is a 'whiteboard' system of posting, so that each update, for any software, would could over-write the earlier version, but the forum software doesn't support this.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Inactive on Mar 30, 2007, 16:11:40
Fair enough Rik, however, I have to say that it gets a bit tedious going through all of the NOD updates that don't apply to the majority of users, just to see if there are any updates of other stuff.

Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 30, 2007, 16:21:37
Well, the only other thing I can think to do to get near a 'whiteboard' approach is to use moderator tools to modify a base entry for each piece of software, so that we end up with one post per application.

Providing forum members don't mind their post counts getting 'docked' as I delete the posts and copy them to the 'root' post for each application, that would provide a smaller thread.

What do you think?

If that's acceptable to members, I would start from April 1.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Inactive on Mar 30, 2007, 16:42:48
Quote from: rikbean on Mar 30, 2007, 16:21:37


If that's acceptable to members, I would start from April 1.



Not a good date to start fooling around Rik. ;D ;D

Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 30, 2007, 16:46:32
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 30, 2007, 20:00:56
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Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Adam on Mar 31, 2007, 01:28:05
I can't really see a problem with the virus definition update posts; users who want the service can view the thread and those who don't ignore it. If anyone has a major issue with the thread, please feel free to contact me.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: DorsetBoy on Mar 31, 2007, 10:25:00
Why don't we just have a NOD32 sticky?

Anyone wanting to see the latest updates just goes to this URL......

NOD32UPDATES (http://www.eset.co.uk/support/updates.php)

and they can see the last posted update and the threats covered. ;D

(The web site is sometimes a few hours behind the update servers.)
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 31, 2007, 10:36:47
As I've said to Rob, Dorset, the logical extension of that is that we don't post updates for any software, but just have a sticky with links to update sites. The whole aim of these updates threads started as a service to members, a 'one-stop shop' for information. As you rightly say, the updates are often ahead of the Eset website, which seems another good reason to keep the thread running.

Given that NOD produces the most posts, it will have its own thread from tomorrow, all other software updates will be in the second thread.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: DorsetBoy on Mar 31, 2007, 10:58:47
Well sorry Rik but I for one think that this thread is redundant and pointless.
It looks a mess as it is.

Updates to security products would be better served in a sticky thread with links to the relevant company site.

Anyone serious about their security wil surely have a direct link to their vendors update/threatsense/advice service. ESET provide the TreatSense Centre AND a free email service to all customers that delivers information on the latest threats as they are found.
Any decent security provider does much the same, so page after page of update numbers is to my mind a nonsense.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 31, 2007, 12:24:50
I understand your views, Dorset. I can only repeat what I have already said. If members don't want the information, they can ignore the threads. For those that do, they will be there as a service.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Inactive on Mar 31, 2007, 12:59:39
Quote from: DorsetBoy on Mar 31, 2007, 10:58:47


Updates to security products would be better served in a sticky thread with links to the relevant company site.



I would agree with that DorsetBoy, however, as the NOD updates are now to get their own thread ( another sticky I presume :'( ) at least the majority of users that don't use NOD can avoid the long and IMO tedious updates.

BTW, your avatar has gone missing    :o I do hope that is only temporary and that I am not reading too much in to that.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 31, 2007, 14:10:42
Quote from: Inactive on Mar 31, 2007, 12:59:39
BTW, your avatar has gone missing    :o I do hope that is only temporary and that I am not reading too much in to that.

I assume the server must have gone down, it seems OK now.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Inactive on Mar 31, 2007, 14:48:53
Quote from: rikbean on Mar 31, 2007, 14:10:42
I assume the server must have gone down, it seems OK now.

Strange, because DorsetBoys Profile showed no avatar, no e mail address and no MSN, all back now, all's well that ends well. ;)
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 31, 2007, 14:56:01
Maybe it was at IDNetters then? Adam may have been changing the oil and kicking the tyres. :)
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: DorsetBoy on Mar 31, 2007, 14:57:11
Quote from: rikbean on Mar 31, 2007, 14:10:42
I assume the server must have gone down, it seems OK now.

No,I was going to change avatar and hotmail but IDNETTERS keeps locking up (too many irrelevant posts for the server to handle ??? :P) so I gave up and went out for lunch.


Got it back as it was,won't bother trying to change it again.
Title: Re: Virus definition updates - March 2007
Post by: Rik on Mar 31, 2007, 14:59:56
I've just changed my email, Dorset, so it seems OK now...
Title: Re: NOD32 updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 31, 2007, 21:31:54
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Title: Re: NOD32 updates - March 2007
Post by: siege2 on Mar 31, 2007, 23:33:24
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