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Title: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 18, 2010, 19:04:16
Our exchange just got upgraded! ;D

That's two months early :)

I've sent support a reply querying if my router works with it, and about the payment to switch but I want to play with new stuff. As I don't rely on my connection as much as I used to, the training period being wonky (which I expect on a newly upgraded exchange) shouldn't be much of a problem.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 18, 2010, 19:06:40
It's about £12.65 to switch, from memory, Niall. What router do you have?
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Den on Jan 18, 2010, 19:15:21
Gresford Exchange:   BT have advised that no current planned date for WBC on 21CN exists   :bawl: I'ts only about 3 mile from the Wrexham exchange  :mad:
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 18, 2010, 20:01:07
Quote from: Rik on Jan 18, 2010, 19:06:40
It's about £12.65 to switch, from memory, Niall. What router do you have?

DG834G but I'm not sure of the revision. I think it's a v3. I can't find the box anywhere, although I know I have it. It must be lost amongst all the Christmas rubbish and debris from having the plumbers & fitters in. Burst pipes are awesome. As for the payment, I was wondering about when it's due as I'm TOTALLY skint after Christmas!
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Glenn on Jan 18, 2010, 20:13:09
Niall, it should tell you the version number on the label attached to the router.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 19, 2010, 08:35:37
Quote from: Niall on Jan 18, 2010, 20:01:07
As for the payment, I was wondering about when it's due as I'm TOTALLY skint after Christmas!

From memory, I was billed with the following month's invoice.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Noreen on Jan 19, 2010, 10:03:45
I use a wired connection Netgear DG834v3 (firmware 4.01.40) and it works well with ADSL2+. As stated above, the version number is on the base of the router and the firmware details can be accessed in the software.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: rgt247 on Jan 19, 2010, 10:35:56
Quote from: Niall on Jan 18, 2010, 19:04:16
Our exchange just got upgraded! ;D

That's two months early :)

How did you find out ? No updated information on Samknows which says 30th March 2010.

The date for me is still 30th March 2011  :bawl:

Cheers
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 19, 2010, 11:31:31
The IDNet portal will show it.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: rgt247 on Jan 19, 2010, 11:34:24
Cheers Rik !

I will just have to wait only a year away now !!!!!
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Glenn on Jan 19, 2010, 11:44:02
Rich, at least you have a date.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 19, 2010, 18:48:03
Quote from: Rik on Jan 19, 2010, 11:31:31
The IDNet portal will show it.

IDnet support emailed me actually :)
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 19, 2010, 18:50:10
That too. ;)
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 19, 2010, 19:01:14
;D

My only concern now is the router. When I first got it, there was a newer firmware out and I tried to upgrade it but the router wouldn't accept it. I'll have another go in a minute, but I have a vague memory of their being something faulty about this router when I got it, but I couldn't be bothered to send it back as it worked :D
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 19, 2010, 19:15:01
Make sure you use IE if you flash it, Niall.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 19, 2010, 20:11:47
Too late :P

It's updated now. I think I used Firefox last time too, which is probably why I thought it didn't work as the router doesn't refresh the page in Firefox. Oh the router is the 834GT not the G. Who knew? ;D Oh and I've requested the switch to the new fangled thingy too :D
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 20, 2010, 09:13:50
Good luck. :fingers:
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 20, 2010, 17:45:13
I've had a reply today and have a date of 27/01/10 for switch over. I've also had a refund for my latest invoice  ??? I assume that this is because the bill will be recalculated once the new line goes live and combine payment for both? I don't seem to be able to catch support while I'm at work as I can't access my emails from work. Not that it's a big deal, it's just like Christmas having to wait a few more hours for a reply :D
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 20, 2010, 17:53:55
Not sure, Niall...
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 23, 2010, 09:04:34
Does this new gubbins have interleaving off by default, or on by default, or does IDnet just look at what you've got now and duplicate it?

It occurred to me last night that interleaving was on when I got my first line and had to ask for it off. I can send them an email, so it's no bother, I just don't want to pester them for no reason :)
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2010, 11:19:50
It did for me - complete new training period.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 23, 2010, 13:00:17
Rather than start another thread, does the Zyxel 660H-61  router have issues with this new 21cn stuff? The only thing I've found is a thread on plusnet forums where one person doesn't have problems, another has what looks like a stuck profile and some others saying they had to get a specific router from Plusnet for it to work correctly as the Zyxel has horrendous sync issues.

I only ask as my sisters other half is going to switch and is also on IDnet, and that's the router I gave them a while ago, which I bought at the time as it was labelled as "future proof" ::) and ADSL2+. I basically don't want them to have any issues with it, but on this line I have now, that router was flawless and had decent security settings on it. I only got this new one due to some Xbox360 related shenanigans.

Oh, and do any settings in the router need altering when switching over? The email I had from support suggested a drop down menu on the router from ADSL to ADSL2 but there's no such menu in this router I'm using (Netgear 843GT).
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2010, 13:03:23
I made no changes when switching, Niall, the router detected the changed modulation and did the rest.

I'll have a quick Google on the Zyxel and see if I can find anything.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2010, 13:05:31
The manufacturer's site says it's ADSL2+:

http://us.zyxel.com/Products/details.aspx?PC1IndexFlag=20040812093058&CategoryGroupNo=AC5783AE-9475-41AD-BDA5-0997187F44AA
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 23, 2010, 14:33:48
Yeah I had a google about and thought it was okay. It's just the posts from various users that made me wonder. That being said, some of the posts showed clear profile errors rather than the router being the issue, so it says more about them than the router :P

Time will tell. It was a good router when I bought it with the idea that it could be used with faster lines. I was just checking so I don't get shot for telling them to switch to 21cn :D
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2010, 14:39:24
 ;D

Support may have definitive answer.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: colonelsun on Jan 23, 2010, 21:06:05
Quote from: Rik on Jan 19, 2010, 11:31:31
The IDNet portal will show it.

Sorry Rik but how do you mean the IDNET portal will show it? What do i click on?
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: rgt247 on Jan 23, 2010, 21:17:41
Quote from: colonelsun on Jan 23, 2010, 21:06:05
Sorry Rik but how do you mean the IDNET portal will show it? What do i click on?

If you login and click "Your Package" in the column on the left it will tell you if Adsl2+ is available.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 24, 2010, 00:59:50
Yes, when you log in, the top of the page has a new link telling you it's available. You click on that and it's basically a script that sends a message asking for the new service (but doesn't auto send, you have to complete the message field then send it).

At least that's what I saw.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 25, 2010, 19:53:48
I forgot to ask, would it be best to leave my router switched off when I go to work on Wednesday, or leave it running?
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 26, 2010, 08:42:31
It shouldn't matter, Niall. I left mine on, but I was sitting watching it. ;)
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 26, 2010, 18:22:46
;D

Sadly I have to go to work. I'm wishing I'd booked off the next two weeks instead of the end of the month, it's far too busy in work this last two weeks :(
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 26, 2010, 18:23:38
Mark it in your diary for next year. ;)
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Lance on Jan 26, 2010, 19:07:56
Quote from: Niall on Jan 26, 2010, 18:22:46
;D

Sadly I have to go to work. I'm wishing I'd booked off the next two weeks instead of the end of the month, it's far too busy in work this last two weeks :(

I've been far too busy for the last 7 months!
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 26, 2010, 19:14:36
Well, if you will insist on studying, working and buying a house, what do you expect, Lance. ;)
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 27, 2010, 19:44:20
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/696773616.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

My router is giving just over 1mb up and 11 down. I imagine the download speed will slowly rise over/after the training period. I'm not bothered if it goes back to the same settings really, the upload speed increase is so welcome it's untrue. I'm fed up of waiting for photos to upload!

Would you recommend just leaving the router now as this is probably going to be what I'll be seeing when it finishes the training period?

Oh I should add, the reason I ask this is that websites are being a bit quirky loading.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 27, 2010, 22:31:02
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/696944490.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

It's creeping up.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 28, 2010, 08:57:38
What do you mean by quirky, Niall? Which browser (and version) are you using?
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 28, 2010, 19:53:52
It's okay, it was just stuttering when loading web pages. It stopped doing it after a few minutes. Since then it's been fine :)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/697924862.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

It's still creeping up, which is nice. I've not seen any issues either, so far :)
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 30, 2010, 16:56:25
Sweet, I'm downloading Mass Effect 2 through Steam at 1.0MB/s and occasionally it goes up to 1020, which is nice :)
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 31, 2010, 00:55:38
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/700355766.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

How strange. This test seems to indicate the line speed has dropped a LOT as soon as it went past midnight. Strange as I just downloaded a file for Mass Effect 2 at the same speeds as earlier. Maybe the speedtest site is wrong. On the second test I did, it was saying 8mb speeds until the last couple of seconds. Maybe everyone in Wrexham just started downloading :D
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 31, 2010, 10:37:18
Look at your download speeds, Niall, they'll give a truer result.
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 31, 2010, 10:43:17
Yeah, that was miles out last night. I'm not having any problems anyway, and I'm more than happy with the speed I'm getting. It's a win all round. I'd have preferred 20mb speeds though ;D
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Rik on Jan 31, 2010, 10:43:40
I'd be happy with 8. ;D
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Jan 31, 2010, 10:46:31
It's been really nice having something new. It really is the equivalent of going from 56k speeds to 512K ADSL again as I'm getting just over 4mb more than I was. I've shifted electrical stuff away from the router too as that was causing a drop before I upgraded :)

So far so good, cheers IDnet  :thumb:
Title: Re: Den! Den!
Post by: Niall on Feb 10, 2010, 19:14:41
Well what a bugger I returned home to. I had no internet connection, so I had a nose at the router and while it was doing it's blinking thing I couldn't actually access it and my network was partially connected. I've rebooted it and my connection has dropped from just over 11000 to just over 9500.

I think my router is dying :(