IDNetters Forums

Technical News & Discussion => IDNet Help => Topic started by: nuevo on Jan 14, 2010, 09:46:31

Title: save log in email details?
Post by: nuevo on Jan 14, 2010, 09:46:31
hi there
Can someone please tell mw how to get my pc to save my (idnet) email log in and passward details.  The save/remember option does not appear and I cannot find any option in the idnet email site.
I use Windows XP.
Thanks
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 09:52:29
Hi Nuevo

Do you mean for webmail? In which case you can't do it. If not webmail, could you tell me exactly where the problem is?
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: nuevo on Jan 14, 2010, 09:59:56
It's just my personal email with idnet.
Thanks
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 10:02:31
How are you accessing it?
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: nuevo on Jan 14, 2010, 10:15:43
I saved the IDNet Webmail - Welcome to IDNet Webmail page with the username and password login box.
Thanks
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 10:17:18
As I said, you can't save the webmail login, for security reasons. You'd be better off using an email client if you can.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Glenn on Jan 14, 2010, 10:20:47
 :welc: :karma: nuevo
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: nuevo on Jan 14, 2010, 10:22:47
Apologies for the (daft) question but by email client do you mean Thunderbird (for Firefox) or Outlook (for IE)?
Thanks again :thumb:
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Glenn on Jan 14, 2010, 10:24:07
Yes, if you download them what do you use?
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 10:24:21
Yes, or Windows Live Mail if you're running Vista or Windows 7. The email clients are not tied to the browser, though, I use Firefox and Outlook, for example.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: nuevo on Jan 14, 2010, 10:29:21

I use mainly Firefox and will set up either Outlook or Thunderbird.
Thanks for the help. :thumb:
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Ray on Jan 14, 2010, 10:31:11
 :welc: :karma:
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Simon on Jan 14, 2010, 13:09:42
What browser are you using Nuevo?  In Firefox or SeaMonkey, you can store your webmail log in, in the Password Manager.  If it won't ask if you want it to remember it, it may already be there (check Password Manager), it may be in the Passwords Never Saved list, or Password Manager may not be enabled.  I have 5 IDNet email accounts, all of which are accessible via webmail, and all of which are remembered by Firefox / SeaMonkey.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 14:48:48
Odd that, Simon, I've never been able to get it to store passwords, and have assumed it's a security measure. It's not already there and it's not in the never saved list...
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Simon on Jan 14, 2010, 16:42:40
I can't answer how, Rik, but I have the whole list of logins offered when I visit webmail.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 16:44:30
Curious, I do for my portal logins, but not the new webmail, only the old.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Ray on Jan 14, 2010, 16:47:46
There's something different about the webmail, Rik, normally FF asks on other sites if I want to save the password but it never does on the Idnet webmail login.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 16:48:18
That's my experience, Ray. It's like a bank login.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Simon on Jan 14, 2010, 16:50:11
I'll check again later, but I'm sure mine does.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: JB on Jan 14, 2010, 16:57:16
This article may be of interest. The edit worked for me last time I tried it.

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/08/16/fix-firefox-does-not-save-store-or-remember-password-on-some-sites-permanently-for-always-auto-complete/

I think you need to re-do the mod each time Firefox is upgraded.

Edit: It's line 812 in my Firefox 3.5.7 on WinXP.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 17:18:09
Quote from: Simon on Jan 14, 2010, 16:50:11
I'll check again later, but I'm sure mine does.

What version are you running and have you got any external password manager running, Simon. Brian and I have just tested with 5 browsers and none of them offer to save the login details. This would make sense, as people might access webmail from a 'net cafe etc.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 17:24:52
Quote from: 6jb on Jan 14, 2010, 16:57:16
This article may be of interest. The edit worked for me last time I tried it.

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/08/16/fix-firefox-does-not-save-store-or-remember-password-on-some-sites-permanently-for-always-auto-complete/

I think you need to re-do the mod each time Firefox is upgraded.

Edit: It's line 812 in my Firefox 3.5.7 on WinXP.

Thanks, JB, that almost certainly explains what is happening, if not why it works for Simon. :) :thumb:
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Simon on Jan 14, 2010, 17:55:48
I haven't done any mods, and don't forget, my primary browser is Sea Monkey.  Have you tried it in that?
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 18:00:51
No...
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Simon on Jan 14, 2010, 18:03:36
I'm struggling to think of the five you did test, then!
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 18:05:33
Safari, Chrome, IE7, IE8 and FF.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Simon on Jan 14, 2010, 18:11:22
Why does everyone ignore Sea Monkey?  :bawl:
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 18:23:29
We're sensible.  ;D
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Simon on Jan 14, 2010, 19:09:23
Well, at least it stores passwords.  :)
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 19:11:19
Though some you don't want stored...
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Steve on Jan 14, 2010, 19:15:40
Don't like saving passwords I'd never remember them that way ???
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 19:16:18
I do a lot of guessing at times. :)
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: JB on Jan 14, 2010, 20:27:49
Quote from: Rik on Jan 14, 2010, 17:24:52
Thanks, JB, that almost certainly explains what is happening, if not why it works for Simon. :) :thumb:

I seem to recall that passwords that were stored some time ago (before certain websites 'instructed' browsers not to) were unaffected. For example, my PayPal password continued to be automatically entered by my browser until a month or so ago when I changed it. Now I need to enter my password every time.

I'll try the edit to that .js file and see if it remembers it again.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Simon on Jan 14, 2010, 22:11:11
I can confirm that SeaMonkey has stored my username and password for one of my IDNet accounts, using webmail, but it now seems to have 'forgotten' the others.  I wonder if it's now because there's no option to use the unsecure login?
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: JB on Jan 15, 2010, 08:32:34
Simon,

I can confirm that using Firefox on WinXP and after making the changes to the javascript file, my browser now offers to remember passwords for all sites. Even the ones it didn't two days ago.

Whether this is a good thing is another matter  :fingers:

I don't know if a similar file exists for SeaMonkey?
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Simon on Jan 15, 2010, 11:10:20
It probably does, Paul.
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: JB on Jan 15, 2010, 13:21:29

Paul ??
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 15, 2010, 13:22:48
That's close for Simon's phone, JB.  :evil:
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Ray on Jan 15, 2010, 13:25:00
 ;D
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Simon on Jan 15, 2010, 13:44:37
Sorry, JB.  :red:
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: JB on Jan 15, 2010, 15:03:02
NP, but I think you did it once before !!

Must have me on a secret database  :eek4:
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Rik on Jan 15, 2010, 15:05:41
We have everyone on that secret database, JB. ;D
Title: Re: save log in email details?
Post by: Simon on Jan 15, 2010, 21:38:31
 :evil: