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Title: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Noreen on Nov 30, 2009, 17:34:39
QuoteOver four million web users have had their Wi-Fi connection hijacked in the last year, says Moneysupermarket.com.

According to research by the comparison website, 19 percent of Brits don't password-protect their internet access at home. Furthermore, 24 percent said they didn't know Wi-Fi hijacking was possible.

Moneysupermarket.com said 15 percent of web users admitted to using someone else's web connection. The comparison website said Wi-Fi hijackers were most likely to use someone else's internet access to surf the web, although emailing, downloading large files and streaming content using service such as Spotify or the BBC iPlayer were also popular activities................

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=3207697
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Rik on Nov 30, 2009, 17:37:20
I guess we're not really surprised, are we. OTOH, they're going to get a wake up call with the three strikes concept.
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Glenn on Nov 30, 2009, 17:45:47
I wonder how a defence of having an unsecured WIFI connection and no illegal files on your PC would stand up in court. Will it be that you are responsible for your allocated IP address without exception?
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Rik on Nov 30, 2009, 17:49:03
We'll only know if it's tested, Glenn, but I suspect that people will be held responsible for what passes through their router.
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: dujas on Nov 30, 2009, 17:50:08
It doesn't appear to be an adequate defence:

A pub owner has had to pay £8,000 after someone used its open wireless hotspot to download copyrighted material unlawfully, says the managing director of the hotspot provider The Cloud. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/nov/27/pub-file-sharing-cloud-fine)

Kiss goodbye to free wifi ;)
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: john on Nov 30, 2009, 17:53:25
Quote from: Rik on Nov 30, 2009, 17:49:03
We'll only know if it's tested, Glenn, but I suspect that people will be held responsible for what passes through their router.

I imagine that you are correct Rik, as you can have one router but several PC's only one of which might have copyrighted data and which is not declared.

As dujas says this might be the end for free WiFi.
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Rik on Nov 30, 2009, 17:54:49
Well, the lawyers are going to get rich, that's for sure.
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: somanyholes on Nov 30, 2009, 18:06:35
I have a plan...

someone needs to go within range of mandelsons home. Download a lot of hardcore copyrighted pornography and then get caught. This would sort the whole thing out as well as causing a large amount of embarrassment for mandelson, which all in all would be a good thing.
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: dujas on Nov 30, 2009, 18:14:00
QuoteWell, the lawyers are going to get rich, that's for sure.

If this article (http://torrentfreak.com/leaked-documents-reveal-anti-piracy-cash-operation-091115/) is true, then yes, very rich :(
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Rik on Nov 30, 2009, 18:22:30
Sickening isn't it. :(
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Simon on Nov 30, 2009, 19:10:53
Indeed, but then, lawyers usually are.  ;)
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Rik on Nov 30, 2009, 19:16:22
Yup. Nearly as bad as accountants.  :evil:
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Simon on Nov 30, 2009, 19:27:16
Oh, that's just going too far, Rik, and very unfair to lawyers.     :evil:
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: kinmel on Nov 30, 2009, 19:36:44
NuLab as ever are ahead of us all and as ever the devil is in the hidden detail............

According to the usually reliable Out-Law  website

A previously unnoticed provision in the Bill could mean that it is impossible to operate a wireless, or Wi-Fi, network without the risk of breaking the new law, according to Edwards, who is Professor of Internet Law at the University of Sheffield.

The Bill says that action can be taken not just against someone suspected of infringing copyright but also against "a subscriber to an internet access service [who] has allowed another person to use the service, and that other person has infringed the owner's copyright by means of the service".

"A lot of people secure [their Wi-Fi networks] but a lot of people don't," Edwards told technology law podcast OUT-LAW Radio. "I think there is a strong likelihood that having unsecured Wi-Fi might well be seen as allowing other people to use their service which means that effectively you would become responsible for their alleged copyright infringement."

Under the Bill it would be impossible to run a free Wi-Fi network without the fear of being liable for strangers' copyright infringements, she said.
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: D-Dan on Nov 30, 2009, 21:20:06
Quote from: Rik on Nov 30, 2009, 19:16:22
Yup. Nearly as bad as accountants.  :evil:

Hmphhhh!
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Lance on Nov 30, 2009, 23:11:45
Which reminds me, you've not paid your bill yet Rik!
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Simon on Nov 30, 2009, 23:28:42
You won't see that in a hurry!  ;)
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: john on Nov 30, 2009, 23:59:15
If Idnet changed their name to 'Donald Russell' there's a 50/50 chance they might get it  ;)
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Rik on Dec 01, 2009, 09:05:30
Quote from: Lance on Nov 30, 2009, 23:11:45
Which reminds me, you've not paid your bill yet Rik!

The duck's on holiday. ;D
Title: Re: 4 million Brits have had their Wi-Fi hijacked
Post by: Rik on Dec 01, 2009, 09:05:58
Quote from: john on Nov 30, 2009, 23:59:15
If Idnet changed their name to 'Donald Russell' there's a 50/50 chance they might get it  ;)

Make that a racing certainty.