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Title: defrag
Post by: Baz on Nov 26, 2009, 20:18:52
dont know if this is a daft question or not but i have never noticed it before.Just done a defrag and internet pages,this forum as an example are really speedy or is it just IDNet.

Also I use PerfectDisk to defrag but got a message saying something about having to do an offline defrag on reboot....or similar didnt read it properly.Dont remember getting that on other times.
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Simon on Nov 26, 2009, 22:19:18
It might be accessing the cache easier, but that's about the only thing I can think of that might make a difference.  Others, of course, may have different ideas.  :)
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Niall on Nov 26, 2009, 22:31:19
Yeah it'll just be the fact the hard drive is now sorted correctly (or at least more efficiently) . I see the same thing after a defrag using O&O, set to SPACE. Nice and nippy :)
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Rik on Nov 27, 2009, 09:51:03
A boot-time defrag means that it's found system files fragmented, Baz. Let it do it and it should help even more.
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Glenn on Nov 27, 2009, 10:20:06
The defrag tries to sort the drive into contiguous files, making the seek time shorter.
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Sebby on Nov 27, 2009, 17:09:48
I've found that defragmenting doesn't make a huge different in practice.
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Rik on Nov 27, 2009, 17:10:40
I guess I started on slow enough drives that I could see the benefits, so it's a habit I still keep up.
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Baz on Nov 27, 2009, 17:42:38
seems to make a difference to my system  :dunno:  I definitely saw a change after
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: zappaDPJ on Nov 27, 2009, 21:43:31
I've found that the benefits of Defrag have become less obvious as PC hardware has evolved. Years ago I'd run it once a week just to reclaim fragmented disk space and it also used to identify lost chains and clusters (I'm not sure if it still does that as I've not had any for years). I'd be surprised if it gave a faster browsing experience as there is very little drive activity while browsing although of course the browser application will load faster.

It's something that's worth doing from time to time but I don't believe you'll see as many benefits as you would have five years ago.
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Technical Ben on Nov 28, 2009, 17:59:49
Well, if your loading up webpages you usually visit, the pc will be loading the old copies from your HDD first. This saves on bandwidth, and also is faster to access. Any new information/pictures or whatever are then downloaded to update the pages. So if your HDD is fragmented alot, this could slow things down.
I don't know the speed benefits, but everyone's system is different, or they use it differently.
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: quandam on Nov 28, 2009, 19:15:19
I use auslogics free defrag programme and have to say that it is excellent. auslogics provide several free clean up programmes and all are very stable and provide no problems whatsoever, have used them regularly over a 3 year period. Well worth a try :thumb:
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Rik on Nov 28, 2009, 19:15:49
Nice tip, Q.  :thumb:
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Baz on Nov 28, 2009, 20:12:45
you got a link Q
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Glenn on Nov 28, 2009, 20:57:10
http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Baz on Nov 28, 2009, 21:16:36
looks ok might give it a try  :thumb:   Q and Glenn for the link
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: quandam on Nov 28, 2009, 21:29:57
Baz

Ensure you opt for the free version (unless you want to pay of course :dunno:) The free version works really well. My suggestion is to find it via download.com (Cnet). You will not be disappointed. They also do a free registry cleaner which is safe too plus other useful cleaning tools. Good luck :thumb:
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Baz on Nov 28, 2009, 21:31:31
got it from the link from Glenn and just followed the 'download page' link on that page at the top  hope thats the free one  :dunno:
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Glenn on Nov 28, 2009, 21:35:13
QuoteAuslogics Disk Defrag is designed for fast defragmentation of modern hard disks. The new version can also consolidate free space and optimize system files placement. Disk Defrag is absolutely FREE for home users..
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Baz on Nov 28, 2009, 21:36:55
WWWOOOHHOOOOOO   we love free stuff  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Rik on Nov 29, 2009, 11:27:03
 ;D

I can give you a free copy of Vista, Baz. :)
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Baz on Nov 29, 2009, 11:55:26
Quote from: Rik on Nov 29, 2009, 11:27:03
;D

I can give you a free copy of Vista, Baz. :)

:o :o :o :o  HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    :getout:







go on then  :)
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Rik on Nov 29, 2009, 12:17:36
Ultimate - if anyone wants it. Never been used.
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: D-Dan on Nov 30, 2009, 00:48:14
If you want another suggestion, I use Smart Defrag (http://www.iobit.com/iobitsmartdefrag.html) which also works well, and is free. You can schedule it to run at a given time, or invoke it on demand. It's pretty quick and offers three defragmentation modes.

Steve
Title: Re: defrag
Post by: Baz on Feb 19, 2010, 09:03:09
well I finally got round to trying this (http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=17352.msg414864#msg414864) and it seems pretty good.nice and quick although my drive wasnt very fragmented but still speedy,simple to use.

thanks for the tip Quandam  and link from Glenn  :thumb: :thumb: