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Title: HDmi cables
Post by: Lona on Oct 18, 2009, 14:24:00
I've just had HD box installed by Sky and the HDmi cable they used looks like cheap rubbish.

Is it worth buying gold plated leads and would it enhance the quality of the video.?
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Steve on Oct 18, 2009, 14:28:02
No Its a digital signal not analogue so an expensive cable is waste of money.
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Lona on Oct 18, 2009, 14:31:33
Thanks Steve.  I also want to run a 20m cable from TV to PC and there are so many choices out there and ranges of price that I'm not sure what I should be buying.
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Simon on Oct 18, 2009, 15:04:57
The only thing with very cheap cables is the build quality.  The connection may not be as secure as it could be, but digital is digital, so the signal shouldn't be affected.  Bear with me, and I'll see what I can find, Lona.
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Den on Oct 18, 2009, 15:14:42
On a short length then a cheap cable would be fine but on a long length you should pay for a better quality cable. We have run cables in a new house (while we running the CCTV cables) for both sound and TVs and the audio firm insisted on high quality cables on the long runs for the TVs.
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Simon on Oct 18, 2009, 15:15:22
Hmm... 20m HDMI cables seem hard to find, and one I came across was over £60.  I did find one on Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/HDMI-Cable-Black-Superior-Quality/dp/B001QWXCOM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1255875058&sr=8-2), and there are others on there, higher or lower quality.  As Den said, I wouldn't go for the cheapest one.
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Den on Oct 18, 2009, 15:18:27
The 15mtr ones we ran were £90 each (2 off) and £60 for a 10mtr one.  ::)
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Simon on Oct 18, 2009, 15:26:11
 :eek4:
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Ted on Oct 18, 2009, 15:37:41
Quite a few on Ebay (http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p4712.m38.l1313&_nkw=hdmi+20m&_sacat=See-All-Categories) £20 to £200
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Lona on Oct 18, 2009, 15:53:54
Yes, Ted, been watching a few of those. This is the one I'm watching at the moment

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150379860216&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Lona on Oct 18, 2009, 15:55:22
On the subject of HD, I must be like the little boy in the story of the Kings new clothes story, as I don't really see much difference.  A little clearer on the snooker but not worth £10 extra a month from Sky.
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Simon on Oct 18, 2009, 16:07:19
Quote from: Lona on Oct 18, 2009, 15:53:54
Yes, Ted, been watching a few of those. This is the one I'm watching at the moment

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150379860216&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

IXOS are a good brand, Lona.  I also agree with you.  There is some improvement, but HD isn't the be all and end all it's hyped up to be.
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: john on Oct 18, 2009, 16:39:52
CPC have them varying in price from around £30 to £200, link here (http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp;jsessionid=WILQ0DUX5TUY0CQLCIRJNFQ?N=411+521&Ns=PLS_SKU%7c0&Ntk=gensearch_003%7Cgensearch_003&Ntt=hdmi+cable%7C20m&Ntx=&displaytext=&isRedirect=true&_requestid=300795).
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: mrapoc on Oct 18, 2009, 17:47:06
i think sky hd isnt more for "ohhh thats a nice picture" but more for those with hd tvs, where the normal sky picture is cr*p (well..it is) so the "hd ness" is to make it more bearable

such as the footy
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Lona on Oct 18, 2009, 18:12:22
I had a normal 36" crt panasonic and my sky picture was great
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Gary on Oct 18, 2009, 18:23:20
Quote from: Lona on Oct 18, 2009, 15:55:22
On the subject of HD, I must be like the little boy in the story of the Kings new clothes story, as I don't really see much difference.  A little clearer on the snooker but not worth £10 extra a month from Sky.
Then you have not got the picture set up right or you need glasses  ;), the difference is pronounced once you change the default settings of the TV, don't use Vivid, use standard, take backlight down to about 3-4 turn off the screen dimmer, drop the colour back to 39-40 ish on that set, sharpness down to one, brightness 50, contrast about 49, if you leave it as it came its over saturates everything, they are designed for shop usage, you need to calibrate it. Also depends on what HD material you watch, some is just old films upscaled but true HG looks great, but a bluray player and watching in full 1080P is amazing. Look at something that's filmed in HD (national geographic is a good example) you will be amazed at the detail, but calibrate your set. Also a run that long may well have issues with 1080 I used IXOS cables for long runs, they have circuitry built into the actual ends to help deal with the possible degradation of signal over that length.
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Lona on Oct 18, 2009, 18:27:47
Thanks Gary.  I will have to print off those instructions as I've forgotten already all the details.(http://www.vocinelweb.it/faccine/jump/26.gif)(http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/bokmal.gif)
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Gary on Oct 18, 2009, 18:52:38
Quote from: Lona on Oct 18, 2009, 18:27:47
Thanks Gary.  I will have to print off those instructions as I've forgotten already all the details.(http://www.vocinelweb.it/faccine/jump/26.gif)(http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/bokmal.gif)
Have a google for settings for your TV some people turn of all the extra processing as well but leave that, DO turn off MPEG noise reduction as well that, really makes the picture soft and use the low power setting if you have dim lights for viewing, it creates better blacks on that set. If you need settings give me a PM  :thumb:
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Lona on Oct 18, 2009, 18:54:04
I'm out my depth with this TV.  Will have to PM you Gary.  Having problems setting up Picture in Picture as well.
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Gary on Oct 18, 2009, 18:55:12
Quote from: Lona on Oct 18, 2009, 18:54:04
I'm out my depth with this TV.  Will have to PM you Gary.  Having problems setting up Picture in Picture as well.
OK, no problem  :)
Title: Re: HDmi cables
Post by: Lona on Oct 18, 2009, 18:56:26
Will follow the instructions you gave me then PM you if I have problems.