After a disaster weekend with my laptop (Acer EISA partition with very basic xp to use as a shell for another program corrupted) and no way to fix it, as the restore DVD's don't restore that partition, I have had enough of Windows, Management consoles, registry hacks and layered security that gets false positives (this started the issue) and Windows in general.
So iMac, looking at the 24" but heard they will be releasing new ones soon, between now and October as the present iMac is at the end of its life cycle. Has any Mac users here advice, for me will it all work with my router etc as is just help and advice appreciated in any way. :)
I'm just wondering how long before we need to open a dedicated Mac board, Gary. :)
Quote from: Rik on Sep 29, 2009, 16:11:39
I'm just wondering how long before we need to open a dedicated Mac board, Gary. :)
May be a good idea, Rik. For me Windows 7 is just more of the same, I love my iPhone, I am fed up of registry issues odd partion problems etc also I want something with the same clean GUI and less risk of viral attack, the iMac would be perfect, I have the money for it, but will not buy if they are about to bring out new ones, I'd kick myself. Oh the acer may end up with coffee spilt on it, these things happen :angel:
Hi,
I'm no great Mac user but I'm sure there will be one here somewhere.
Have you thought of installing Linux on the Acer. It's not a million miles away from Mac OS as they are both based on Unix. I would certainly be happy helping you get it going and try it out.
Cheers,
Paul.
Mac Care (http://www.maccaring.co.uk/) :evil:
Quote from: Dangerjunkie on Sep 29, 2009, 16:29:07
Hi,
I'm no great Mac user but I'm sure there will be one here somewhere.
Have you thought of installing Linux on the Acer. It's not a million miles away from Mac OS as they are both based on Unix. I would certainly be happy helping you get it going and try it out.
Cheers,
Paul.
And it's free.
Apparently Apple will have a few new releases in February. So it might be best to wait then (although it's always better next year with computers ;) ).
Also, wont partition magic fix anything? It always seems to list a tool for any hdd mess up I can think of.
Not sure there is ever a right time to buy there's always something else around the corner,the imac 24 is a great machine but you can't carry it around. I would suggest a trip to an Apple store if you can manage it and spend some time using one or other. Your router should be fine wired/wireless.
I think that's key with any technology purchase, Steve. Whenever you buy, something bigger, better, faster will be released soon afterwards - you have to dive in when you want to or you'll never get there.
Quote from: stevethegas on Sep 29, 2009, 18:52:36
Not sure there is ever a right time to buy there's always something else around the corner,the imac 24 is a great machine but you can't carry it around. I would suggest a trip to an Apple store if you can manage it and spend some time using one or other. Your router should be fine wired/wireless.
The laptop I have now is an 18 3/4 inch screen, its not a carry around thing its a desktop replacement, its huge. I will cannot get to an apple store sadly I cannot go that far due to my disability so its a from home decision.
Quote from: Dangerjunkie on Sep 29, 2009, 16:29:07
Hi,
I'm no great Mac user but I'm sure there will be one here somewhere.
Have you thought of installing Linux on the Acer. It's not a million miles away from Mac OS as they are both based on Unix. I would certainly be happy helping you get it going and try it out.
Cheers,
Paul.
Really not into playing with an operating system and getting drivers etc to work, I need a machine tht works out of the box, I'm past using a computer as a hobby, but thanks for the idea
Quote from: Technical Ben on Sep 29, 2009, 18:08:08
Apparently Apple will have a few new releases in February. So it might be best to wait then (although it's always better next year with computers ;) ).
Also, wont partition magic fix anything? It always seems to list a tool for any hdd mess up I can think of.
Its the fact that the partition has a Acer version of XP although very basic on a Vista ultimate machine to run the instanton offline boot for that a media feature, once it's corrupt you cannot recreate it, you would need Acer to do that, well hey would re image the drive at an outet as its their technology sadly.And rcovery disks dont do that. Also I want to move away from Windows to a mac anyway.
Quote from: Gary on Sep 29, 2009, 18:57:42
The laptop I have now is an 18 3/4 inch screen, its not a carry around thing its a desktop replacement, its huge. I will cannot get to an apple store sadly I cannot go that far due to my disability so its a from home decision.
Solutions inc Chichester? http://www.solutions-inc.co.uk/storelocator/index.php, I wonder if they do home demos
Quote from: Rik on Sep 29, 2009, 18:54:18
I think that's key with any technology purchase, Steve. Whenever you buy, something bigger, better, faster will be released soon afterwards - you have to dive in when you want to or you'll never get there.
I have seen rumours of October for new iMacs so Ill wait till my Birthday and see what happenes, this is an expensiove purchase so I treading carfully, the Acer can struggle on :fingers: hopefully till then, but I so hate windows after all this time, I want something smoother more intuitive and made in a factory not installed by me.
Quote from: stevethegas on Sep 29, 2009, 19:03:50
Solutions inc Chichester? http://www.solutions-inc.co.uk/storelocator/index.php, I wonder if they do home demos
I never knew they did Macs! Thats 4 miles away from me :thumb: Thanks Steve :karma: or that they even existed, i'll call them tomorrow
NP. Looking at the potential costs I would strongly advise some time spent using one alongside someone who knows what they are doing, otherwise you'll just try to use it as you would a Windows machine initially.It after all may not be what your looking for!
Quote from: stevethegas on Sep 29, 2009, 19:14:31
NP. Looking at the potential costs I would strongly advise some time spent using one alongside someone who knows what they are doing, otherwise you'll just try to use it as you would a Windows machine initially.It after all may not be what your looking for!
I understand that Steve, my friend Stephen uses one greatly and so I have some insight now, I liked what I saw and used, but will check it all out further, tbh though I think my mind is made up though :)
I wouldn't buy a iMac at the moment as it is rumoured that upgrades and possibly cheaper prices are likely very soon. Your printer, routers and other USB items should work just fine.
This site gives a good gauge of when updates are due
http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/
I've owned Macs since 1984 and have never owned a PC. When I use PC at work I hate it and would like to throw the computer out of the window than actually use Windows ;D
This is very exciting, Gary, and I can't want to hear how you get on! :)
Quote from: lozcart on Sep 29, 2009, 20:09:27
I wouldn't buy a iMac at the moment as it is rumoured that upgrades and possibly cheaper prices are likely very soon. Your printer, routers and other USB items should work just fine.
This site gives a good gauge of when updates are due
http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/
I've owned Macs since 1984 and have never owned a PC. When I use PC at work I hate it and would like to throw the computer out of the window than actually use Windows ;D
Thats what I have heard so I will wait and see, but its hard when you want to get started ;D
I would anticipate an announcement in the next few weeks, so the new machines are ready for the Xmas market. It is rumoured the iMac may have a redesign with a new case, keyboard, mouse etc. Apple often pick Tuesdays for announcements so :fingers: for next week.
Further rumour here:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/09/29/apple_warns_of_near_term_imac_mac_mini_constraints.html
Hi Gary,
Quote from: Gary on Sep 29, 2009, 18:59:06
Really not into playing with an operating system and getting drivers etc to work, I need a machine tht works out of the box, I'm past using a computer as a hobby, but thanks for the idea
That was true a couple of years ago but Linux really isn't like that any more. Ubuntu installs on my laptop out of the box. Everything works. The only real things I have to do are open the hardware drivers wizard and confirm that I want to use the non-open-source nVidia driver and then tell the package manager I want to install the restricted extras (all the patent codecs and stuff.) Of the dozen machines I've installed it on I've only had one that required specialist attention to get it running.
By comparison, installing Vista on the same machine is a nightmare. It ended up with the graphics card, wireless and Ethernet not working and having to download the drivers on another machine and carry them across on a USB key. One of the things I like about Linux is how little I have to mess about with it compared to Vista or XP. I spend 99% of my time with my laptop using it rather than fixing it or cleaning up the latest piece of spyware that's sneaked in past the big-name antivirus that promised to keep it out.
I'd be happy to come over make sure it all goes right for you. It won't cost you a thing other than your time to try it. If you're going to reformat anyway it seems like a good time.
Cheers,
Paul.
Quote from: Dangerjunkie on Sep 30, 2009, 12:04:12
Hi Gary,
That was true a couple of years ago but Linux really isn't like that any more. Ubuntu installs on my laptop out of the box. Everything works. The only real things I have to do are open the hardware drivers wizard and confirm that I want to use the non-open-source nVidia driver and then tell the package manager I want to install the restricted extras (all the patent codecs and stuff.) Of the dozen machines I've installed it on I've only had one that required specialist attention to get it running.
By comparison, installing Vista on the same machine is a nightmare. It ended up with the graphics card, wireless and Ethernet not working and having to download the drivers on another machine and carry them across on a USB key. One of the things I like about Linux is how little I have to mess about with it compared to Vista or XP. I spend 99% of my time with my laptop using it rather than fixing it or cleaning up the latest piece of spyware that's sneaked in past the big-name antivirus that promised to keep it out.
I'd be happy to come over make sure it all goes right for you. It won't cost you a thing other than your time to try it. If you're going to reformat anyway it seems like a good time.
Cheers,
Paul.
Thanks for you offer, I appreciate that, Its Justina's birthday today so I have to get into Chichester so I can buy her a present she wants and look at the macs while I'm there as it hurts so much to get into town. This Acer will need reformatting but some of the keyboard is acer specific touch control for the cinedash, I do wonder if it would be as easy as you say, no harm trying and if it fails it can be dealt with :evil: The iMac is the way I want to go though, both for the OS and also aesthetics, and my iPhone could have babies with it then ;D
As others have mentioned, wait for the predicted new model, but otherwise, I found it to be a very easy transition. You'll have no problems. :)
Quote from: Sebby on Sep 30, 2009, 15:40:02
As others have mentioned, wait for the predicted new model, but otherwise, I found it to be a very easy transition. You'll have no problems. :)
Thanks Sebby :)
I think my take on the 'Mac' issue can be summarised in this rather pointed article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsoft-mac-windows).
Which I hereby dedicate to all three Mac users around here! :evil:
Start digging, Bob. ;D
Can us Mac owners have our own board so we can say :getout: to these Windows lovers :hehe:
Not sure I like being akin to a JW .God I hope they're not right as well!!!!
;D
Quote from: bobleslie on Oct 02, 2009, 14:57:07
I think my take on the 'Mac' issue can be summarised in this rather pointed article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsoft-mac-windows).
Which I hereby dedicate to all three Mac users around here! :evil:
Soon to be four *ahem* I so cannot wait ;D
:hehe:
And you, Gary, had the cheek to lecture *me* about the evils of computer obsession. ;D
Quote from: bobleslie on Oct 02, 2009, 18:47:35
:hehe:
And you, Gary, had the cheek to lecture *me* about the evils of computer obsession. ;D
No I just hate having all the grief of a system that offers nothing new takes more looking after, a mac does not at this time need layered protection with the risk of false positives, updating each of these apps daily and scanning etc, and no registry issues to try and fix or which litter and trip over other programs, so at the end of the day its less obsessive and easier to use ;D
And not only that, Gary, you also lectured me all about the pleasures of sitting outside in the garden and sleeping with 'wifey' rather than messing around wasting time with technology, and here you are about to embark on the biggest waste of time (and money) by becoming 'Macced'. :shake:
So you'll soon be curled up in bed with a Mac. Are you sure there's enough room for 'wifey' as well? ;D
Buying a Mac is definitely not a waste of time or money, though it would impose on garden/wifey time. :eyebrow:
Though not as much as a Windows box. ;D
Quote from: Rik on Oct 03, 2009, 15:30:34
Though not as much as a Windows box. ;D
Depends how often it needs watering, Rik. ;D
;D
When I posted it, I wondered how many people still have window boxes. They were commonplace when I was a kid, but I haven't seen one in years.
I've not seen one for a long time either, Rik. :)
Hanging baskets seem to have taken over, that or most people now have gardens...
I have a wildlife garden, ie I hate gardening.
Me too, Glenn, I have brown fingers. Sue told me to do some weeding years ago, and I managed to pull out all the plants and leave the weeds. If it's not grass or a rose, I haven't a clue.
I don't have any weeds, a weed is a plant you want in your garden
;D
My feelings entirely...
Quote from: Glenn on Oct 03, 2009, 16:36:42
I don't have any weeds, a weed is a plant you want in your garden
That should have said " a weed is a plant you don't want in your garden"
Well, a Mac's a bit like a weed. Thankfully it's not as prolific. ;D
Quote from: Glenn on Oct 03, 2009, 17:20:47
That should have said " a weed is a plant you don't want in your garden"
It's OK, I understood. :)
Quote from: bobleslie on Oct 03, 2009, 17:25:24
Well, a Mac's a bit like a weed. Thankfully it's not as prolific. ;D
You have big weeds do you, Bob? ;)
I have no weeds as land is concreted and/or paved over. Thankfully. ;)
I've always fancied that idea, but Sue doesn't. :'(
As a former owner of a rather large patch of meadow grass (hesitate to call it a lawn/garden, though I did landscape it), I can thoroughly recommend 'going concrete/paving'.
One way of getting your life back. ::) ;D
Though it does make it harder to bury the bodies, of course. ;)
One of my friends has laid astro turf in place of the grass
How's he find it?
He loves it, no mowing, just a brush to clear away the leaves etc.
Do you have to wash it once in a while?
No idea, I've never asked.
Just wondering...
I've got some astro turf up in the roof. It's great for kneeling on when crawling under the low eaves/extension. ;)
I notice it has small 'drain' holes in it, so I guess it can and should be hosed down occasionally.
Obviously, I've never tested the theory. ;D
I think you should, Bob, in the interest of scientific research. :evil:
:hehe:
Pass. ;)
You're no fun. ;)
Quote from: bobleslie on Oct 02, 2009, 19:31:06
And not only that, Gary, you also lectured me all about the pleasures of sitting outside in the garden and sleeping with 'wifey' rather than messing around wasting time with technology, and here you are about to embark on the biggest waste of time (and money) by becoming 'Macced'. :shake:
So you'll soon be curled up in bed with a Mac. Are you sure there's enough room for 'wifey' as well? ;D
The reason to buy a Mac and get rid of Windows is so I have more time with wifey in said garden and less time going bugger why is that not working :laugh:
Quote from: bobleslie on Oct 02, 2009, 19:31:06
And not only that, Gary, you also lectured me all about the pleasures of sitting outside in the garden and sleeping with 'wifey' rather than messing around wasting time with technology, and here you are about to embark on the biggest waste of time (and money) by becoming 'Macced'. :shake:
So you'll soon be curled up in bed with a Mac. Are you sure there's enough room for 'wifey' as well? ;D
The reason to buy a Mac and get rid of Windows is so I have more time with wifey in said garden and less time going bugger why is that not working, I stil need to use the net as I am stuck at home a lot, but without the
issues :laugh: I have put up with with Windows as an OS, put it this way I bought an iPhone its brilliant, it does amazing things and no odd kern exec crashes or low memory features of my old Symbian or corrupt installs, therefore I spend less time fiing things and more time enjoying the time I use the few gadgets I have.
Quote from: Gary on Oct 03, 2009, 19:48:39
The reason to buy a Mac and get rid of Windows is so I have more time with wifey in said garden and less time going bugger why is that not working, I stil need to use the net as I am stuck at home a lot, but without the issues :laugh: I have put up with with Windows as an OS, put it this way I bought an iPhone its brilliant, it does amazing things and no odd kern exec crashes or low memory features of my old Symbian or corrupt installs, therefore I spend less time fiing things and more time enjoying the time I use the few gadgets I have.
A friend of mine who has a MAC says he saw a kernel panic a couple of years ago, so I guess MACS aren't any more reliable than PCs. It's all hype really.
He's an expert on Anti virus software and reckons that you really need to have at least two on your PC 'just in case'. Then of course there's the anti-spyware. Best to have a couple of those as well, as 'Wintroll' over on 'Netters' says that Brand A didn't find the doodle-bug cookie and it caused him all sorts of grief....
Still he says that reinstalling Windows isn't really that big a deal as he usually only has to do it twice a year.
It really makes him laugh that MACs only have a one button mouse and no serial port!! I mean can you imagine that. And they say MAC are innovative. Sheesh, Microsoft have had two button mice for years.
Still, he got the PC from PC World's bargain bin - much cheaper than that over priced MAC rubbish and he feels so much happier being a Gates groupie than belonging to that snobby MAC cult. :evil:
There's a bloke with a MAC goes down the pub but whilst my mates can swap stories about the latest video cards and how easy it is to find drivers for the 'hitemandrun' game controller, all he can talk about is how he managed to finish his work early and spent more time with his wife doing other things. Loser.
:)
Possible the most sarcastic reply ever?
All of that seems wrong. They now have 2 buttons or more on mice. And although they are susceptible to crashes too, there is not much of a virus scare on them. Also, windows is not that bad that you need 6 virus/spyware programs at once. (although a firewall/virus scanner and spyware scanner already add up to 3. I stick with just firewall on always, and the other two on a schedule)
Quote from: Technical Ben on Oct 04, 2009, 10:40:54
Possible the most sarcastic reply ever?
All of that seems wrong. They now have 2 buttons or more on mice. And although they are susceptible to crashes too, there is not much of a virus scare on them. Also, windows is not that bad that you need 6 virus/spyware programs at once. (although a firewall/virus scanner and spyware scanner already add up to 3. I stick with just firewall on always, and the other two on a schedule)
I was at pains to put in a couple of smileys so that folks wouldn't take it the wrong way and see it for what it was intended to be - irony, humour you know the sort of thing :)
Guess I failed didn't I..... :shake: ;D
Not for me. ;D
Get a student to give you their uni ID number and you can get about %12 off. Just gave mine to my Grandad so he can get a mac, he's wanted one for years.
If I get eight students, can I get it at 4% of list? ;)
Quote from: Tacitus on Oct 04, 2009, 10:48:19
I was at pains to put in a couple of smileys so that folks wouldn't take it the wrong way and see it for what it was intended to be - irony, humour you know the sort of thing :)
Guess I failed didn't I..... :shake: ;D
Nope. ;D
I have to admit, all the talk of Macs does make me tempted, if only just to see what all the fuss is about - and I do have a free day today... :evil:
Do you want any other suggestions? :evil:
Quote from: Tacitus on Oct 04, 2009, 10:48:19
I was at pains to put in a couple of smileys so that folks wouldn't take it the wrong way and see it for what it was intended to be - irony, humour you know the sort of thing :)
Guess I failed didn't I..... :shake: ;D
Nope, I got it. :)
Quote from: Rik on Oct 04, 2009, 11:37:57
Do you want any other suggestions? :evil:
I think, if I were to look at one, it would be a macbook, and I would keep my Windows machine as well. I have too much on here to swap fully.
Honestly, I believe that if you got a Mac, you wouldn't want to use the PC, so eventually you'd move everything over.
I suspect you're right, Seb.
Time to re-read that article I posted, Rik. :evil:
You think? ;D
That article is a load of nonsense, quite frankly. ;)
Come on, Seb, say what you mean. ;D
:hehe:
The guy doesn't put up a valid argument at all. He's just a jerk with a grudge.
I suppose that's better than a jerk who's a judge. ;)
:)x
Quote from: Sebby on Oct 04, 2009, 18:22:34
That article is a load of nonsense, quite frankly. ;)
TBH I read it and thought the same. He seemed to be saying "I'm sick of Windows but because Mac users are elitist/ a cult/snobs/Insert epithet of choice, I'll stick with it, rather than try something different".
Still, each to their own I suppose.
Absolutely. I don't mind people saying they don't want to switch for good reasons, but people like that who think they're cool by not joining this apparent Mac club are just looking for attention, imho.
I confess that, like Gary, I've reached that point in life where I don't particularly want to know how things work, and certainly not spend hours making them work. Instead, I want to use the technology, not learn how to maintain it. For that reason, I can envisage a time when I will make the swap to a Mac system.
Quote from: Sebby on Oct 04, 2009, 18:22:34
That article is a load of nonsense, quite frankly. ;)
Actually, Sebby, it's a bit of fun. It's satirical. He's a journalist seeking to entertain. And doing a pretty good job as well.
I've just re-read the article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsoft-mac-windows) myself and I think the bits about Windows
may even be funnier on rereading than the bits about Mac.
OTOH I still like the characterisations of the true Mac evangelist (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsoft-mac-windows). Priceless. ;D
Quote from: bobleslie on Oct 04, 2009, 19:08:57
Actually, Sebby, it's a bit of fun. It's satirical. He's a journalist seeking to entertain. And doing a pretty good job as well.
Fun and nonsense can co-exist. ;)
Absolutely. We see it every day in these forums. ;D
:rofl:
:ithank:
I know which part I specialise in. ;D
:hehe:
So do we! ;D
:nana: ;D
:rofl: :eat:
I want to repeat, I did not have carnivore relations with that steak. ;D
:rofl2: :ok:
It would be to much hassle to change to a Mac even if I wanted to. All my invoicing, payroll and everything else work fine on a PC and the thought of moving across would give me nightmares. :eek4:
Agreed.
You know about Den's dreams do you, Seb? :evil:
You said you would not mention her Rik >:D
So far I haven't, Den, but Seb is Jung at heart. ;D
For anyone with a Mac or thinking about purchasing one the Apple Time capsules are failing after a year to 18 months,there are 2 long threads about dead Time Capsules in the Apple Discussion forum. Although luckily they are covered by any Applecare Agreement you may have with your Mac machine linked to the TC (read the small print) after the initial 1 year Time Capsule warranty has expired. This of course is cold comfort as any data loss is not covered. I took the step this weekend of purchasing an external firewire drive for the iMac Time machine backups. I will still use the Time capsule for the Macbook but ensure the sparse image is archived elsewhere on a regular basis
Forgive my ignorance, Steve, but what's a Tim Capsule?
Quote from: Rik on Oct 05, 2009, 19:13:48
Forgive my ignorance, Steve, but what's a Tim Capsule?
http://www.apple.com/uk/timecapsule/
The idea works well with a MacBook or Macbook Pro as it all happens via the Mac OS X Time Machine software and connects via wireless to the Time capsule
Thanks. :thumb:
Quote from: stevethegas on Oct 05, 2009, 19:20:55
http://www.apple.com/uk/timecapsule/
The idea works well with a MacBook or Macbook Pro as it all happens via the Mac OS X Time Machine software and connects via wireless to the Time capsule
There's a tip here how to use a Time Machine drive on (eg) an iMac to back up a MacBook on the same LAN via wireless:
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/mac/t/3571816-time-machine-tip.html
I should emphasise I haven't actually tried it as there's nothing important on the MB !
Thanks Bill . What worries me with an unsupported volume backup using Time Machine is the ability to restore from it. I have used a non supported disk previously and was unable to mount it at startup from an OS DVD
Quote from: stevethegas on Oct 05, 2009, 20:14:36
Thanks Bill . What worries me with an unsupported volume backup using Time Machine is the ability to restore from it. I have used a non supported disk previously and was unable to mount it at startup from an OS DVD
That seems to prod a memory... I think that was discussed in another thread and it was decided that you couldn't do a full system restore that way, but it would be fine for apps, data etc.
And tbh, on the couple of occasions I've had a major crash, I've found that a clean reinstall of the OS (followed by appropriate updates) and a restore of the bits I need is a good way to clear out all the rubbish that tends to accumulate on any hard drive :P
Quote from: Den on Oct 05, 2009, 16:36:21
It would be to much hassle to change to a Mac even if I wanted to. All my invoicing, payroll and everything else work fine on a PC and the thought of moving across would give me nightmares. :eek4:
A good target for hackers is......DEN 8-) never tell even a friendly world whats on your pc ;)
Quote from: Rik on Oct 05, 2009, 19:13:48
Forgive my ignorance, Steve, but what's a Tim Capsule?
Actually it's a Time Capsule - a combined wireless router (Apple Airport) and backup drive, which integrates with the Apple time machine automated backup system. The system will allow you to role back to any given version of a saved file.
I imagine they are failing through overheating. The Airport routers get pretty hot in my experience, so combine that with a hard drive and you have a recipe for failures.
Personally I use a separate firewire drive and SuperDuper which creates a bootable backup.
The TC internal power supply component fails presumably as you say due to lack of airflow and overheating. However the Airport Extreme has an external power adaptor
Quote from: Gary on Oct 05, 2009, 20:46:05
A good target for hackers is......DEN 8-) never tell even a friendly world whats on your pc ;)
I've got three computers so now you have to guess which one I use for business >:D
Quote from: Bill on Oct 05, 2009, 19:48:46
There's a tip here how to use a Time Machine drive on (eg) an iMac to back up a MacBook on the same LAN via wireless:
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/mac/t/3571816-time-machine-tip.html
I should emphasise I haven't actually tried it as there's nothing important on the MB !
It appears this is supported by Time machine see here as well http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1964018.
The iMac attached firewire drive appears in the MB Finder and is available as a Time Machine Backup location
Quote from: Den on Oct 05, 2009, 22:27:52
I've got three computers so now you have to guess which one I use for business >:D
Well one gets compromised and then the rest come tumbling down these days it seems, if Microsoft cant keep Hotmail safe.......
Quote from: stevethegas on Oct 05, 2009, 21:14:25
The TC internal power supply component fails presumably as you say due to lack of airflow and overheating. However the Airport Extreme has an external power adaptor
I know, but the one I have still seems to run rather hot compared to other routers I've used which barely get above mildly warm.
Quote from: Tacitus on Oct 05, 2009, 20:46:21
Actually it's a Time Capsule
Showing my age, Tac, I still remember dialling TIM. ;D
I bet when you think that far back it all goes black and white :hehe:
Grey, even. ;D
When I worked for the BBC in the 80's (as a videotape engineer in Television Center) each suite had a dedicated feed from TIM, so we could play in the news opening exactly on time.
I'm surprised they didn't use the Rugby signal.
That was only a couple of miles from where I lived.
Naturally, I was always on time.
The TV picture was lousy, though. ::)
I always liked seeing the red lights on the masts come into view as I drove down the M6, I knew I was getting near home. :)
I knew I was near home when I saw Watford Gap. :food:
I knew I'd gone too far when I saw Watford Junction. ;D
If only we could reclaim all the hours we spent belting up and down motorways. ;)
Or sitting in forums... :evil:
:lol: That too. ;D
Or waiting for game to load on a Commadore 64 :evil:
Or on broken down trains. :)
Or waiting for a lift when hitchhiking. :thumb: :fingers:
Quote from: Rik on Oct 06, 2009, 18:23:56
I knew I'd gone too far when I saw Watford Junction. ;D
I knew I was doomed when I saw the Watford Colosseum ;D
The new iMacs are out.
http://www.apple.com/uk/imac/
I can't afford a new Mac but have ordered the new Magic Mouse ;)
http://www.apple.com/uk/magicmouse/
I do like that 27" quad-core iMac... it's more "can't justify it" than "can't afford it" but the end result is the same- I don't get one >:(
The Magic Mouse looks interesting... ever since I bought a MacBook I've wanted to be able to use a trackpad with the iMac, that looks like it might come close... bit pricey though. Let us know what it's like when you get it?
Its not difficult to spend well over £2000 pounds on an iMac with the 2.8gHz i7 ,8Gb of memory and a 2Tb HDD not to mention the Apple care warranty :eek4: :eek4: I think I might stretch to the magic mouse :) It could be a good time to get the old model iMac at a reduced price
There's no denying that the new iMac is great. My only "gripe" is that you can get it in 21.5" and 27", and nothing in between. My early 2009 24" is a perfect size, and really the spec isn't all that different.
In agree, I think a good spec 24" would be a good buy, presumably they can be had at a discount now.
Quote from: Sebby on Oct 20, 2009, 20:20:33
There's no denying that the new iMac is great. My only "gripe" is that you can get it in 21.5" and 27", and nothing in between. My early 2009 24" is a perfect size, and really the spec isn't all that different.
The 21.5 is idea size for me 24" was always too big, the new graphics card and better lit screen will be perfect, the 21.5 " has 90% of the pixel content on the 24" and with a 3.03ghz proc will be great, Its faster, Ram is cheaper, so When Justina is back I shall be taking my money to the shop and getting me one with the ATI card in it, I can't wait ;D
Certainly if your happy with screen size,it seems better value for money when compared with the previous iMac model range. Personnally I think they've made a mistake in not providing a 24" version
Quote from: stevethegas on Oct 21, 2009, 13:24:14
Certainly if your happy with screen size,it seems better value for money when compared with the previous iMac model range. Personnally I think they've made a mistake in not providing a 24" version
I agre they should have 21.5 and 27 is a vast gap in size 27" would give me arc eye from my sitting position where as 21.5 will be perfect, they may reintroduce a 24" if people get up in arms about it, the 27 is just to big for me I may as well get a mac mini and hook it up to my Flat panel TV. I am going to wait for the first the first few weeks to see if there are any hardware glitches, but when Justina and I looked at the old iMacs we knew 20" was the right size but I was unhappy with specs on those, the 21.5 fits well with the faster proc and better card. Also an extra £160 for 8GB ram is better than £800. ;D Im really excited. The laptop can be sold and I start life with a new OS and machine, which not only works well but looks great.
To be honest I don't think you need more than 4Gb on a Mac for everyday use ,even when running XP in a virtual box with 1Gb allocated for its use my page outs are minimal. I would presume Crucial will have something compatable should one need more than 4. I am assuming the 21.5 in has 4 slots for memory unlike its predecessor.
Just checking the spec on the 27in I notice it has a video input which is worth a consideration but there again buying an additional monitor for the external source would possibly be cheaper ::)
Yep, that's pretty cool!
The Apple Magic Mouse lists SL 10.6.2 as a requirement.
Quote from: stevethegas on Oct 22, 2009, 22:57:38
The Apple Magic Mouse lists SL 10.6.2 as a requirement.
http://www.apple.com/uk/magicmouse/
Scroll down:
System Requirements
Bluetooth-enabled Mac computer
Mac OS X v10.5.8 or later with Wireless Mouse Software Update 1.0
Existing keyboard and mouse for setup
edit- anyway, the latest version is 10.6.1 :P
Sorry Bill! Should have added the words "native support" :)
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/10/21/mac_os_x_10_6_2_to_have_native_support_for_apples_magic_mouse.html
That's a lot more reasonable :thumb:
I'd expect OS X to have native support for a device that Apple themselves supply! Nice to have a rough idea of when the next update might be due as well :P
Quote from: Bill on Oct 22, 2009, 23:04:04
edit- anyway, the latest version is 10.6.1 :P
Indeed, hence the speculation that 10.6.2 is imminent. :)
Well its ordered. 21.5 inch iMac with a 3.33ghz proc. The radeon videocard and 8GB ram. I had some good news with a windfall, plus sold my laptop, on Friday I should have my new machine ;D
Fantastic news. ;D
Quote from: Sebby on Oct 26, 2009, 21:03:13
Fantastic news. ;D
Thanks Sebby, I went for the applecare as well to be safe. Its a investment and I am looking forward to not using Windows anymore, even though it has its place, its just not with me. ;D
You will love it, trust me. Once you've gone Mac, you'd never go back. :)
Let us know how you get on, Gary. If you can. :evil: ;D
It's going to make a bit of a dent in Microsoft's profits! :evil: ;D
Quote from: Simon on Oct 26, 2009, 21:29:08
Let us know how you get on, Gary. If you can. :evil: ;D
Having used one a bit now Simon as a friend lent me his mac book, its pretty easy, but there will be a learning curve, but its worth it.
Quote from: bobleslie on Oct 26, 2009, 23:45:09
It's going to make a bit of a dent in Microsoft's profits! :evil: ;D
I like making dents in lots of things, not in Microsoft or course, no one man can, but I could think of a few things I would like to :evil: ;)
Just to clarify, I wasn't doubting your abilities, Gary. Just a bit of fun. :)
:hehe:
Quote from: Simon on Oct 26, 2009, 23:56:07
Just to clarify, I wasn't doubting your abilities, Gary. Just a bit of fun. :)
I didn't think you were Simon ;D
Do any of you mac users have apperture? I was just nosing around some forums when it occurred to me that I haven't seen many people mention it for a while. Has the mac got a newer, better photo editor now, or are people using photoshop for macs now?
I am trying to get to grips with Aperture 2 but I think it's probably intended for the professional taking masses of photos. So far I managed very quickly to sort and stack the input but not got round yet to editing the RAW data.I like the fact you don't work with the master version and any changes are kept as a small data file which is obviously associated with the original version. There are plenty of plug-ins but they're very expensive and I suspect for my needs I would be happy with Photoshop Elements but I will plod on this winter and get through the tutorial book.
Quote from: Niall on Oct 27, 2009, 21:23:57
Do any of you mac users have apperture? I was just nosing around some forums when it occurred to me that I haven't seen many people mention it for a while. Has the mac got a newer, better photo editor now, or are people using photoshop for macs now?
I can't help you there. I don't do anything in the way of photo editting (other than a few simple things on iPhoto).
Quote from: stevethegas on Oct 27, 2009, 22:50:43
I am trying to get to grips with Aperture 2 but I think it's probably intended for the professional taking masses of photos. So far I managed very quickly to sort and stack the input but not got round yet to editing the RAW data.I like the fact you don't work with the master version and any changes are kept as a small data file which is obviously associated with the original version. There are plenty of plug-ins but they're very expensive and I suspect for my needs I would be happy with Photoshop Elements but I will plod on this winter and get through the tutorial book.
Here's something you may be interested in, Steve.
It's an article about award-winning nature photographer Andy Rouse (http://www.photographyblog.com/articles_andy_rouse_interview_2.php).
He mentions some of the software he uses for RAW processing. You'll also find he's written a book on basic RAW image processing. He also writes an informative newsletter.
I appreciate you were enquiring wrt Mac, but you may still find the information useful.
HTH
He does take some brilliant photos. :)
Hi everyone
just bought Photoshop Elements 6 with a free upgrade to Version 8, I believe version 8 to is better as Adobe have used interfaces from CS3/4, 6 interface is a tad dark for my tastes.
Both are full retail boxed items cost just over £45 with carriage, a bargain I thought.
Have tried Aperture 2 on trial but found it hard to get my head around it, I think it is for professionals doing batch processing on a lot more photo's than I would take.
Photoshop Elements 8 should be here in about a week.
Regards
RogerP
Quote from: Simon on Oct 28, 2009, 12:19:22
He does take some brilliant photos. :)
He does. I've been hooked for about four years, after my wife gave me a card with this picture on (http://www.andyrouse.co.uk/specific.asp?IDimage=828&keyword2=wolf).
I'd seen him on TV previously.
Thanks Bob,looks like Rawshooter disappeared when Adobe bought the company,which leaves Adobe Lightroom2 not cheap either, certainly Aperture will do the import and initial edit its just a matter of getting one's workflow organised
The photoshop elements v8 looks the next step for specific photo edits without having to spend a fortune.
I'm using Elements 8 on my PC, and it's very good. It's got three settings for editing. Edit full, edit quick and edit guided. I use the guided one more often that not as it's so damn simple, even a small child could use it. When you've basically got your photo right in camera there's not much you need to do so it's perfect.
I highly recommend it.
:thumb:
Lightroom 3 beta is free until April http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom3/?PID=3154956
Thanks Glenn :thumb:
Quote from: stevethegas on Oct 27, 2009, 22:50:43
I am trying to get to grips with Aperture 2 but I think it's probably intended for the professional taking masses of photos.
It is more for workflow management than a replacement for Photoshop, although you can link it to PS for photo editing. That said there are a number of enhancement tweaks in it so unless you want to do masking and that kind of thing you may find you don't, or rarely, need PS.
Guy Cowan is an expert on Aperture and sometimes does free seminars at Calumet. His Website (http://www.guycowan.com/) is down at present but it might be worth a try later on. Or you could try Calumet's site - they have branches in most major cities.
Received my Magic Mouse this evening, first impressions are it is very good.
Much less bulky in the hand than the mighty mouse, the scrolling, right click and forward/backward two finger swipes work well. Overall pleased, except for the price ;)
Great. No doubt I'll pick one up at some point. :)
Up and running, and its great, will take a while to get used to but I must admit I love my new Mac ;D the 21.5" feels huge, god knows what the 27"
Happy days, eh Gary? :)
He loves it but has not used it yet :eyebrow: Fell in love on site >:D
Quote from: Rik on Nov 02, 2009, 18:54:56
Happy days, eh Gary? :)
Different ones Rik, my heads aching from loading backups etc, but its fast the led screen is gorgeous and it sure beats my winter blues, which are not doing well right now
Quote from: Den on Nov 02, 2009, 18:56:57
He loves it but has not used it yet :eyebrow: Fell in love on site >:D
;D
i'M a pink toothbrush, you're a blue toothbrush...
Quote from: Gary on Nov 02, 2009, 18:57:43
Different ones Rik, my heads aching from loading backups etc, but its fast the led screen is gorgeous and it sure beats my winter blues, which are not doing well right now
Sorry to hear that, Gary.
Quote from: Den on Nov 02, 2009, 18:56:57
He loves it but has not used it yet :eyebrow: Fell in love on site >:D
No i'm using it now that why i love it Den
Quote from: Rik on Nov 02, 2009, 18:58:30
Sorry to hear that, Gary.
The usual Rik, but a bit worse this year :(
I understand. :(
Quote from: Rik on Nov 02, 2009, 19:01:10
I understand. :(
Saying that if I turn the brightness up on this thing maybe it will help ;)
Gary I am sure it's great and I wish you well with it, what I was saying if I had spent a lot of money on anything and it worked as I expected then I would tell everyone I loved it.
Good luck, we are all jealous really but then I love learning new things. ;D
Quote from: Den on Nov 02, 2009, 19:03:39
Gary I am sure it's great and I wish you well with it, what I was saying if I had spent a lot of money on anything and it worked as I expected then I would tell everyone I loved it.
Good luck, we are all jealous really but then I love learning new things. ;D
believe me Den if i did not like it it would go back, it has 14 day return on it so after spending 4-5 hours with it so far i like what i see. Cheers :thumb:
:thumb:
Quote from: Gary on Nov 02, 2009, 19:10:41
believe me Den if i did not like it it would go back, it has 14 day return on it so after spending 4-5 hours with it so far i like what i see. Cheers :thumb:
How could you not love a Mac? Sure, people think they're just expensive and look nice, but they're actually a pleasure to use. You'd never revert to Windows. :)
Quote from: Sebby on Nov 02, 2009, 22:26:23
How could you not love a Mac? Sure, people think they're just expensive and look nice, but they're actually a pleasure to use. You'd never revert to Windows. :)
Im hooked already Sebby, just reformatting an external drive from fat 32 to HFS for time machine :thumb:
Quote from: Gary on Nov 02, 2009, 23:01:47
Im hooked already Sebby, just reformatting an external drive from fat 32 to HFS for time machine :thumb:
Some good stuff here re Time Machine http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1964018
Quote from: Gary on Nov 02, 2009, 23:01:47
Im hooked already Sebby, just reformatting an external drive from fat 32 to HFS for time machine :thumb:
Good stuff. :)
Quote from: stevethegas on Nov 03, 2009, 07:15:37
Some good stuff here re Time Machine http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1964018
Great thread! :thumb:
Quote from: stevethegas on Nov 03, 2009, 07:15:37
Some good stuff here re Time Machine http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1964018
excellent :thumb:
Some useful summaries and links on here http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/index.html
The greatest transition problem with Switching-to-Mac that I found was in forcing myself to stop thinking like a Windows user. For example, when I went to hook-up a (rather old) printer, I first went hunting for a driver to install beforehand. Frustrated at not finding one I ploughed-on and connected it regardless (expecting to then have to do battle with stand-in generic drivers), went to the Printers section in System Preferences and, lo!, the blooming Mac had not only found and installed the correct driver on its own but also showed me an icon/picture of my exact printer model to prove to me that it had got it right. It was then that I realised that the best way to approach any skill deficiency with a Mac is to think: "well how should it be done, *logically*" and then go for it.
And on top, as if ease-of-use is not enough, you've got Terminal to drop down into from where you have full-blown, full-featured Unix and all those tools to interface and manipulate real servers and routers and switches with. Super :)
S
Stop it! I'm becoming more convinced by the day! ;D
Go on. :P
I would love one, but would want a new 24inch one really.
The new series only comes in 21.5" or 27".
Quote from: Sebby on Nov 04, 2009, 23:08:53
The new series only comes in 21.5" or 27".
Go for the 27" - you know you want to really ;D Add an EyeTV tuner and you've got a digital TV as well.
Quote from: Simon_idnet on Nov 04, 2009, 21:10:18
And on top, as if ease-of-use is not enough, you've got Terminal to drop down into from where you have full-blown, full-featured Unix and all those tools to interface and manipulate real servers and routers and switches with. Super :)
For someone in your position Simon, I imagine it's one of the best investments you've made.
One of the top three because I've now got one at work, one at home and a Mac laptop for when I'm in Telehouse :)
I also have 3
Macbook13
Imac24
Mach3 (in use every morning ) :out:
You'll like the new home for this thread then, Steve. ;D
Yeah a new home :thumb:
I've got six:
iMac G3
iMac G5
iMac 17" Intel
iBook G4
Macbook 13" Intel Plastic
Macbook 13" Intel Unibody
I'm down to two at present. The G5, now 3 years old and still going strong. Can't say it's been 100% as it had a kernel panic when it took exception to a USB card reader. The MacBook Pro had a battery die after 3 months. Took it to the AppleStore in Brum and it was replaced immediately with no questions.
The 8 year old G4 is now with sis who uses it daily. That one never missed a beat, the only work done being a larger drive, some added memory and the transition to OSX. My niece has an iMac with both that and the G4 networked to an HP multifuntion printer.
So no they're not perfect but if those are the only problems I get over the next 8 years I won't be very bothered.
In both cases Broadband is supplied by you-know-who and, like the Macs, it just works. :)
Quote from: Simon_idnet on Nov 05, 2009, 14:40:27
One of the top three because I've now got one at work, one at home and a Mac laptop for when I'm in Telehouse :)
Friends in Nottingham Uni's Computer Science department, tell me that a lot of people there have gone over to Macs for much the same reason as Simon. They get all the benefits of things like Word/Excel, Photoshop etc, and they also have all the Unix command line stuff under the hood for when they want to do serious work. Like many of the older Unis, they are heavily into Unix so the transition for them is straightforward.
Mac rules. ;D
Quote from: Sebby on Nov 04, 2009, 23:08:53
The new series only comes in 21.5" or 27".
I have the 21.5" its physically bigger than the the old 20 inch and tbh looks huge, the 27 would be good but as a desktop machine but could be a little overwhelming I think, for my needs the 21.5" having 90% of the pixels of a 24 inch is good enough, although with the 27" you get core i5 and i7 procs but one again for my needs the 3.33ghz E8600 does fine. The led backlighting is very uniform and crisp though, most impressed :thumb:
Yeah I'd go for the 21.5" for sure.
Embarrassingly for Apple, Windows runs quicker on one of the 27" iMacs than Snow Leopard. (video drivers issue)
Yep, but it's just a temporary performance issue on the new iMacs. It'll be fixed.
Just to get it straight I am not having a go at a Mac >:D
I went to Chester and once again drifted into the Apple Mac shop on the Rows to see what the fuss is about.
I sat down in front of a Mac and played around for a while and could not really see what you get for the extra outlay and the hassle of changing all the software. It was nice to see a computer that took up less space but in my way of thinking, if the monitor packs in the computer has to be replaced as well.
Must admit I like to see black on my desktop not white so a choice of colour would be a step forward and what the hell is that keyboard. :eek4: It's too small (Looks as if it should be on a netbook) and no numeric pad :eyebrow:. Is it possable to purchase a real keyboard or are you stuck with that.
I will make a point of going again when I have more time as I am sure I must be missing something but I just don't know what. ;D
Quote from: Den on Nov 07, 2009, 16:23:04
Just to get it straight I am not having a go at a Mac >:D
I went to Chester and once again drifted into the Apple Mac shop on the Rows to see what the fuss is about.
I sat down in front of a Mac and played around for a while and could not really see what you get for the extra outlay and the hassle of changing all the software. It was nice to see a computer that took up less space but in my way of thinking, if the monitor packs in the computer has to be replaced as well.
Must admit I like to see black on my desktop not white so a choice of colour would be a step forward and what the hell is that keyboard. :eek4: It's too small (Looks as if it should be on a netbook) and no numeric pad :eyebrow:. Is it possable to purchase a real keyboard or are you stuck with that.
I will make a point of going again when I have more time as I am sure I must be missing something but I just don't know what. ;D
New macs are now aluminium (actual metal), not white, and yes you can get a full keyboard, they are on the apple site ;D
Having been a user for over a decade with windows I was unsure about the move, but needed a change. I am glad i did. Its so nice to have the finder not wade through explorer which now looks like an application made in hell, but its what you get used to, finder is easy to use especially when things are icons, so simple. After 6 days usage I like the simper way I can see what is running by looking in the doc for a dot as well as in activity monitor which once again is laid out cleanly and simply, I like the fact I don't need to defrag, that there is no registry leaving behind a myriad of entries, and you can truly remove a program completely.
Time machine is a fantastic back up utility it automatically backs up my mac without me having to think about doing it, and I didn't have to get it as a separate program either it just runs backups in the background and that's that. I like I have spell checking universally, very handy in instant messengers and as you type in mail ;D There is so much yet to discover but its smooth fast it flows so well, the led display offers outstanding image quality, better than my laptop had and any of my monitors, the colour reproduction is outstanding, what makes me think now is that the laptop was almost as expensive as my Mac in the first place. I like silly things like the screen acting as a flash for the Photo Booth inbuilt iSight camera, clever and boy it works well.
The sound quality is amazing for a small machine, I have it going through a set of Logitech Z2300 speakers with a 8" base drive, pure pleasure to listen to, even without them it sounded great. iPhoto is an amazing photo app it beats what is native in Windows and offers so many features, you really need to use one for a few days to see how even that app works, its chalk and cheese to windows but at the same time not confusing to change over, on a quick play you have no idea what's ahead, and each day I discover something new, and I will for a while. Above all my wife could email and use the machine with ease, Windows confused her, she finds the mac more logical that says a lot as she is technophobic. The capacitive mouse is brilliant gestures on a mouse are a pleasure to use, and nothing to wear out or a wheel to get full of crumbs. I could go on but suffice to say I now would not go back, it took me longer to work out how to get around windows than it has the Mac, everything is pretty much in plain sight. Is that better than windows? Well that's personal choice, and I am not saying my Mac is better then windows, its different, that's the best way to put it.
Oh and should you want you can go buy a keyboard and mouse for the mac quite happily if you don't like what it comes with.
Good reply Gary, it's nice to have a reply that explains and not just criticises the other operating systems. I must admit if I told Linda I was going to change she would have my guts for garters but then she would if I told her I was going to update my PC. ;D
Quote from: Den on Nov 07, 2009, 16:23:04
..... if the monitor packs in the computer has to be replaced as well.
......Must admit I like to see black on my desktop not white so a choice of colour would be a step forward and what the hell is that keyboard. :eek4: It's too small (Looks as if it should be on a netbook) and no numeric pad :eyebrow:. Is it possable to purchase a real keyboard or are you stuck with that.
The answer to your first point is this (http://www.apple.com/uk/macmini/). i.e. use your own monitor.
The answer to your second point is something like this (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/110060).
Can't help with the colour.
Quote from: Den on Nov 07, 2009, 18:21:53
Good reply Gary, it's nice to have a reply that explains and not just criticises the other operating systems. I must admit if I told Linda I was going to change she would have my guts for garters but then she would if I told her I was going to update my PC. ;D
Criticising has got silly recently Den, we all like what we like, I wish you lived locally as I would say come over and get to use it over a cuppa :) there is nothing wrong with Windows as far as I a concerned, all I set out to do by changing was to make things "simpler"
As I get older I want plug and play, also on my medication (Morphine and Clonazepam) concentration is hard work, and I chose an iMac so its at a good height yet still all in one, my `osteoporosis and spinal problems make sitting awkward so the added height of the machine helps, also I got the Mac, and Justina got new carpets through out the house, we traded ;D
Platform wars are silly, Windows and macs both have their place, its about how we use our machines and what we need/want out of them. I figure if we talk and explain our wants we help others to understand our choices. The last thing I would is someone moving platforms in any way to crash and burn with their choice, sadly not everyone sees it like that on forums, and fanboys get out of control on both sides, if you search for mac vs windows its dull reading, this forum is a better place than most, and understanding each other and helping out is what we do well on netters, even if we do get a little hot under the collar sometimes, but a good debate is fun, as long as its not a slanging match and I have been a few of them so I'm just as guilty.
I must admit I would like to have a play with a windows 7 machine to see the improvements over Vista, and windows lets people connect cheaply compared with Macs, that's a big plus point and one that seems to get forgotten, Yes Macs are a bit more expensive, but so was my TV, but I don't expect to replace either in a very long time now. :thumb: