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Title: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 20, 2009, 11:12:12
Hi all its a quick visit but I recently upgraded to ADSL2+ as I have the twin wire BT would it be easier to get another router for this task? I have already a faceplate etc did this last year I dont think it would be a good move to try and download the latest frimware for this router is there any way I can change the settings to work for this service ............or is it a new router time ? I am not keen to change my settings on router as ,well I am likely to mess it up

I am running around like a headless chicken at the moment so posting in between breaths....

Thanks  


The router is connected at 6964k and this has resulted in a profile
being set for your line of 5500k. In order to try and improve this, can
you connect the router and filter to the test socket found behind the
faceplate of the master socket to determine if any improvement is seen?
Also, please check your router settings to ensure it is set to use
ADSL2+ and also has the latest version firmware available from the
manufacturer's website.

Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Rik on May 20, 2009, 11:19:16
Hi David

You're ahead of most of us on WBC, so you know more than I do at this point. :) The 2700 should be fine, though. Where did that message come from?
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 20, 2009, 11:20:47
Brian at support.my thoughts were the profile may be stuck rather than change the settings  :dunno:
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Rik on May 20, 2009, 11:21:52
It's early days for a stuck profile, what are your line stats like?
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 20, 2009, 11:23:26
n         Up
Current Rate:       6965 kbs       1036 kbs
Max Rate:       6965 kbs       1060 kbs
Current Connection:
   Current Noise Margin:       5.2 dB       7.2 dB
   Current Attenuation:       46.1 dB       23.9 dB
   Current Output Power:       19.4 dBm       12.4 dBm
ATM       Cells       Errors       %
Transmit:       1494702       0       0
Receive:       7052363       0       0
IP       Bytes       Packets       Errors       %
Transmit:       44480370       150467       0       0
Receive:       226824387       212808       0       0

Is this them Rik ?
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Rik on May 20, 2009, 11:26:19
That's them, David. It seems like the profiles for ADSL2+ are lower than the ADSL equivalents. I shall have to ask some questions...
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 20, 2009, 11:31:20
Thanks Rik..appreciated..with routers Im not that clever with so didnt want to go tampering  :thumb:
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Rik on May 20, 2009, 11:32:19
I've asked. BT haven't yet published the profiles, but they do appear to be lower, based on the few available examples. Give with one hand and takeaway with the other springs to mind. :(

What was your previous speed like, David, ie on Max?
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 20, 2009, 11:33:39
My speed has not really changed Rik  :dunno:
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Rik on May 20, 2009, 11:36:49
Odd, I'd have expected you to see benefit from ADSL2+. Me, I'm right at the point on the graph where the two lines converge, so I expect to see little or no benefit.
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 20, 2009, 11:37:01
Im normally 5.1 Down and around 81 Up

just carried this one out

Date     20/05/09 11:34:53
Speed Down    4482.46 Kbps ( 4.4 Mbps )
Speed Up    874.66 Kbps ( 0.9 Mbps )
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Rik on May 20, 2009, 11:37:44
Try a BT test, David.
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 20, 2009, 11:38:49
Since changeover I have not been able to get in to BT test at all but will carry on trying
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 20, 2009, 11:43:02
Work calls   :bye:  back later
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Rik on May 20, 2009, 11:43:33
See you then. :)
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Simon on May 20, 2009, 11:44:16
Nice to see you, David.  :)
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 21, 2009, 15:44:27
Thanks Simon. :-*

Well its a bit of an anti climax really just heard back and apparently the speed I have always had is the max the line will take  :dunno: and no more can be squeazed out.................. :shake: that was a waste of time and wait

BT claim it will deliver 10 but its a guestimate....I have learned something but Im not quite sure what at the moment
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Rik on May 21, 2009, 15:45:43
That's what I'm expecting on my line, David. The real benefits are for those who can get 6Mb+.
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 21, 2009, 15:47:54
Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test:  -provides background information.
    Your DSL connection rate: 6964 kbps(DOWN-STREAM),  1035 kbps(UP-STREAM)
    IP profile for your line is - 5500 kbps
    Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 5122 kbps

If you wish to discuss these results please contact your ISP

Just managed to do one......The only thing I know is I laid out £11 for nothing  :mad:
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Rik on May 21, 2009, 15:51:24
£11? You are getting about 2.5x upstream, of course.
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Steve on May 21, 2009, 18:42:00
Hi David, I thinks that's the key Rik its the potential gain in upload performance,its pretty desperate on standard adsl trying to upload anything at present.
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Rik on May 21, 2009, 18:43:45
It's only those on 6M and above that will gain significantly downstream, imo, Steve.
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: zappaDPJ on May 21, 2009, 22:12:18
1Mbs up?  :eek4: I didn't know about that when I signed up today. What a bonus! I do quite a lot of uploading so any increase in the upstream will be extremely welcome.
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Den on May 21, 2009, 22:39:09
OK, you have all lost me now  :eyebrow: What is this all about? signing up for ASL2+, how, where, why?
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Simon on May 21, 2009, 23:14:01
I think they're talking about WBC trials, Den.  You'll need to speak to IDNet.  :)
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Sebby on May 21, 2009, 23:16:39
Quote from: badpianoplayer on May 21, 2009, 15:47:54
Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test:  -provides background information.
    Your DSL connection rate: 6964 kbps(DOWN-STREAM),  1035 kbps(UP-STREAM)
    IP profile for your line is - 5500 kbps
    Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 5122 kbps

If you wish to discuss these results please contact your ISP

Just managed to do one......The only thing I know is I laid out £11 for nothing  :mad:

Still decent, good upstream, and you can tell people that you have cutting-edge technology. ;)
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 22, 2009, 00:31:18
Thanks guys ,sorry I have not been back on today,apart from work and I have been inundated with people knocking on my door ,phoning to buy my car >Im trying to arrange the collection of a new...ish car which has a problem which means organising a transporter to bring it to my caring hands to repair.if I have the time .as some know the Artic is warmer than my current domestic arrangement and on top of this I still have to do the shopping get the children back and forth to school and get meals done so its difficult for me at present to enjoy the company I love so much here but Im hoping to get things sorted out in time..

I was not at all having a moan at Idnet they are the best...it was BT and all the hype around this ,I also have to say I had convinced my self that things would improve on the downloads as I dont really understand the upstream...but then you know this already.

Its 12.27 and I have got some time trouble is I have been up since 6 am so Im too tired to do anything other than crawl into my bed and be thankful its school holidays next week.

I apologise itf I seemed somewhat curt it was not meant and hope you understand


Night night
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Sebby on May 22, 2009, 10:25:02
All the best, David. :)
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 22, 2009, 10:26:36
 :thnks: Sebby appreciated
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Rik on May 22, 2009, 10:36:33
Sorry, missed this earlier, David. I hope thing improve soon.
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: David on May 22, 2009, 10:38:42
 :thumb: I refer you to the poem on my wall  ;)
Title: Re: Router and ADSL2+
Post by: Rik on May 22, 2009, 10:40:03
'Nuff said.  :)