Apple has released the long-awaited 10.5.7 update. Get it here (http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_5_7_Update) and see the details here (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3397). Should you want the combo update, that's available here (http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_5_7_Combo_Update).
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Is this our first niche thread? ;)
Its as near as dam it a 450mb download :eek4:
We'll have to get IDNet to open a new central. :)
Plus another 32mb after that if your using the Safari 4 beta.
Just as well the MS updates are light this month then, Steve. :)
Quote from: Rik on May 13, 2009, 11:49:44
Just as well the MS updates are light this month then, Steve. :)
Maybe regretting the Win 7 download in a few days :D
;D
That's the problem with being leading edge. Us dinosaurs have our reasons you know. :)
Quote from: stevethegas on May 13, 2009, 11:38:04
Its as near as dam it a 450mb download :eek4:
That's the combo update isn't it? The standalone is around 250MB I thought.
It seems to depend on the Mac, my iMac G5 at work had a 250mb download, whereas my Macbook at home the 449mb. Both were running 10.5.6 so didn't need the combo.
Maybe different for Intel and PPC Macs?
Quite possibly. I'm still a bit of a Mac newbie so I couldn't say for sure. :red:
Sebby. The combo you linked to is 729mb.I used the smaller update file I was impressed such a large update was performed so quickly and with no drama. ;)
Me too. I'm not comparing with Windows to be malicious, but install a Windows service pack and it can take half an hour. This took a couple of minutes - pretty impressive.
Its not gone well for some! Laptops not sleeping,mail accounts disappearing etc.
Are you sure MS weren't involved, Steve? ;D
Quote from: stevethegas on May 14, 2009, 14:24:09
Its not gone well for some! Laptops not sleeping,mail accounts disappearing etc.
Ouch, doesn't sound good. I'm surprised because the testing seemed to be so thorough.
Quote from: Rik on May 14, 2009, 15:18:06
Are you sure MS weren't involved, Steve? ;D
Quote from: Sebby on May 14, 2009, 15:48:23
Ouch, doesn't sound good. I'm surprised because the testing seemed to be so thorough.
Probably involves former Windows devotees equipment only. ;D
Hi
Downloaded update 10.5.7 all 449mb actual download took time but installation was flawless, can't say I have noticed much in the way of change except for the odd application file update.
Still reckon that Mac updates go a lot smoother than Microsoft updates.
I eagerly await Snow Leopard and reckon Windows 7 will have to do catch up again, again and again.
Regards
RogerP
Compared with Leopard, Windows 7 is good, but I do think Snow Leopard will blow it away.
Is Snow Leopard another expensive service pack? :out:
Shut it Windows boy. :tongue:
;D
Anyway, the full retail edition of Leopard is £83.00 from the Apple Store. Now compare that to the retail version of Vista Ultimate from Microsoft, which is £225.10. ;D :evil:
Quote from: Sebby on May 14, 2009, 22:54:44
Shut it Windows boy. :tongue:
Better than Mac Man! ;D
I think not. ;D
Quote from: Sebby on May 14, 2009, 22:58:31
Anyway, the full retail edition of Leopard is £83.00 from the Apple Store. Now compare that to the retail version of Vista Ultimate from Microsoft, which is £225.10. ;D :evil:
Ah, but thats because your edition can only be installed on a machine from one manufacturer, and is therefore cheaper to build and test!
Although to be fair the only thing holding me back from a Mac is the price!
Fair enough. :)
How much extra software have you has to buy, Seb?
See what Sebby says, for myself extra software depends I suppose depends on your interests,however you do need some office software whether it be open source,iWork or Macoffice. A Windows licence is required for bootcamp or virtual device software which once installed will allow you to utilise your previously owned Windows software.
My shopping list has been relatively cheap so far Macoffice 2008 £13(MS Home user program), Windows XP pro SP2 £35 (Dell oem ebay), Aperture 2 £82 (ebay).
Thanks, Steve, I'm just curious to learn what the cost of the switch is. :thumb:
The higher educational discount is the thing to go far if anyone can wangle it. When I purchased my imac at a retail store little attempt was made to verify the authenticity of my wife's student status. An email was required from the University to her and in the end I left the shop with my purchase without any email having being sent. So to a certain extent on this occasion trust was involved.
Current HE prices in Cambridge http://store.apple.com/uk_edu_78186/
Excuse me while I go and drool. :)
A 10% discount on Macs is certainly a good deal.
I wonder if you can also get 10% off a Big Mac? ;D
The discount depends on the product, I achieved 13%.The link posted is not publicly available (presumably only available if connected via the University IP address and it is possible to follow it through to ordering and payment.
I did recall it stating that any spurious claims for a discount would result in the order being declined and a full refund made. So I wonder how stringent Apple are this morning about checking the validity of an order?
This could be classed as fraud so please delete if you feel it an inappropriate post or just use the address of your local MP >:D
I would point out that my wife is still a student although maturing nicely.
Quote from: Rik on May 15, 2009, 09:30:16
How much extra software have you has to buy, Seb?
Only Office 2008 - as I bought the student version (still having a .ac.uk email address comes in handy!), it only cost £30.
I wonder how mature students are allowed to be? :)
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Perhaps I should file a bug not sure the nomenclature is correct for polite society ;D
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I think we need to bottom out the cause of the bug!
Looks like they have a relationship with TomTom and their Fartkamera. ;D
Quote from: lozcart on May 13, 2009, 13:24:19
Maybe different for Intel and PPC Macs?
The Intel ones are usually a lot bigger than those for the PPC.
Quote from: stevethegas on May 15, 2009, 16:30:54
Perhaps I should file a bug not sure the nomenclature is correct for polite society ;D
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Its a bit long winded but I think it explains mac software update
Summary
The sizes of software updates can vary for computers running Mac OS X 10.3.4 or later. This is a feature of Software Update, which automatically detects the best update for your computer.
Products Affected
Mac OS X 10.3, Mac OS X 10.4, Mac OS X 10.5
Sometimes, Software Update preferences is able to offer a "smaller-sized Delta" update than you might expect, or smaller than what you might see on other computers installing the same update. The "smaller Delta" updates are offered when some Mac OS X system files can be modified instead of replaced in their entirety. See "Why are some computers not offered a smaller update?" below for more information.
Smaller-sized Software Updates take less time to download and install than regular-sized Delta or Combo updates.
Tip: For updates that have different-sized versions, the "smaller-sized Delta" is the smallest. The regular-sized Delta version is the next smallest, and the Combo version is the largest (but most versatile).
How do I make sure I use the correct update?
From the Apple menu, choose Software Update. Then install the update(s) it offers. That's all you have to do. Software Update automatically finds the best update your computer can use. If you're updating more than one computer, it's possible that the size of the same-named update will vary from computer to computer. Just install whatever Software Update suggests. If some computers can benefit from a smaller update, great!
Why are some computers not offered a smaller update?
Not every computer that has Mac OS X 10.3.4 or later can benefit from smaller Software Updates. Why? Sometimes, modifications made to Mac OS X system files, including ones made by third-party products, may require the installation of a full sized version of a Mac OS X software update. Again, you don't have to worry about figuring out which kind of update is best for you, just let Software Update preferences do the work.
Advanced tip: Details about this process can be viewed in the /var/log/install.log file.
Can I install a smaller-sized Software Update on a computer that did not download it?
For best results, use Software Update preferences to update each computer individually, since not all computers may be able to use the smaller-sized update. If you just want to download an update once, you probably want to use a "Combo" update installer version, available from Apple Downloads.
Can I download the smallest-sized updates from Apple Downloads (standalone installer)?
No, the smallest-sized updates are only available from Software Update preferences built-in to Mac OS X, because Software Update needs to make sure your computer can use the smaller update before allowing you to install it. If it didn't do this check, you might end up with unusable system software files.
However, you can download installers from Apple Downloads (sometimes called "Web Updates"), even if they are not quite as small as installers that Software Update may offer.
How do I know if I installed the smallest-sized Software Update?
Look in your Receipts folder for updates that contain the word "patch". For example: MacOSXUpdate10.3.5Patch.pkg or MacOSXUpd10.4.6IntelPatch.pkg
Tip: Smaller-sized Delta Software Updates are not available for every Apple software product, such as Mac OS X Server and Apple applications.
Thanks, Steve. :thumb:
Quote from: Lance on May 15, 2009, 11:08:23
A 10% discount on Macs is certainly a good deal.
Actually the Higher Ed discount is 15% :) Uni students can get some really good deals.
Although I have got that at the AppleStore in Birmingham by showing my staff card, you generally have to order online. The way they verify entitlement is by IP address, so you have to do it from a campus based machine.
If you can get Edu discount the best time to buy is around September/October when they do the 'Back to School' promo. Usually you get an iPod mini on top of the edu discount. When I bought my MacBook I got the 15% plus £90 discount on an iPod plus 3 years AppleCare for £58 (normally some £200 on a MacBook, but it falls within a campus agreement).
Not a bad deal really. You can see why they are getting more popular in Higher Ed.
It's a sensible strategy for them to use, Tac, worth millions in future savings on advertising.