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Technical News & Discussion => IDNet Help => Topic started by: gingerjedi on Mar 05, 2009, 21:06:48

Title: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: gingerjedi on Mar 05, 2009, 21:06:48
We were contacted by Talk Talk who promised us a cheaper call package at the same time I was promised that my IDNET Broadband would not be affected in any way, well it's go live day today and my Broadband connection is going haywire, noise on the line etc etc.

Do they do a physical 'unplug & plug' at the exchange when they swap line providers or is this just coincidence? It's not the first time I've had problems but my lines been clean for almost a year up until today.

I have a 2Mb fixed connection rather than MAX if it makes a difference?

I'm having to type this in word and do a cut n paste as I can't stay connected long enough, strangely I can connect with the phone of the hook??


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Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Simon on Mar 05, 2009, 21:11:16
I'm not sure how it works, but it does seem a bit too much of a coincidence, doesn't it?  Someone more technical will be along soon, who can advise you better then me.  :)
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: gingerjedi on Mar 05, 2009, 22:28:41
I'm wondering if BT boosted the signal before but Talk Talk have just plugged my line into their equipment as standard? I'm just guessing mind as I don't know if the physically change anything. ???

Looking at my latest routerstats graph it seems to be calming down a little, still bad though.

Does anyone know what the pink line is? Not noticed that one before??

I've added an old RS graph for comparison, it looks like the target SNR was 15 but now its trying at 6 ???

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Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Lance on Mar 05, 2009, 23:24:15
The pink line looks like an average  :)
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Sebby on Mar 05, 2009, 23:27:25
Afaik, there would be a physical line move at the exchange, so it does sound related.
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Rik on Mar 06, 2009, 09:27:43
I agree.
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: gingerjedi on Mar 06, 2009, 09:36:07
Oh no it looks like I've opened a very old can of worms.  :'(

Here we go again... endless phone calls to people with crib sheets who will blame IDNET or my equipment etc etc etc....

Wish me luck!
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Rik on Mar 06, 2009, 09:37:42
Good luck, don't let them sell you broadband.  ;)
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: gingerjedi on Mar 06, 2009, 09:41:44
I'm really annoyed, I was told that this would not affect my broadband connection whatsover.
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Rik on Mar 06, 2009, 09:45:00
Do you have a cooling off period?
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: gingerjedi on Mar 06, 2009, 09:54:11
Oh yes... I will be reminding them of that once I work out if I should ring on my mobile, it's an 0870 number.

Free from a Talk Talk land line, I'm not at home though. :mad:
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Rik on Mar 06, 2009, 09:56:04
0870 will cost you a significant amount on most mobiles. :(
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Glenn on Mar 06, 2009, 09:58:51
Put the number in here (http://www.saynoto0870.com/search.php) to find the correct number
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: gingerjedi on Mar 06, 2009, 11:35:00
Rang from work, the nice foreign lady asked if I had checked my filters?... when I had picked myself up of the floor I explained that I have ADSLNation filters and everything was fine until they took over my line, she then suggested I contact my ISP.... :mad: I then said I want to go back to BT as I am not going around the houses explaining the situation to people who are clearly less knowlegable than myself... <click ring ring> "tech support, how can I help?" I knew that would get their attention.

The guy promised to ring back at 5PM when I'm at home... I wont hold my breath.

Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Simon on Mar 06, 2009, 11:49:38
Keep us posted.  I suppose you could ask IDNet to check the line for you, but I don't know what that would achieve, other than confirmation that it's not IDNet where she problem lies. 
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: gingerjedi on Mar 06, 2009, 11:56:45
I'll do that, the Talk Talk guy is bound to try and fob me off at some point so I'd better arm myself.

I went though all this with Tiscali a couple of years ago, to be fair it turned out to be BT's fault but it took them a couple of years and several calls to admit it, the trouble is my problem does point to internal wiring (no BB, crackly line that goes away when you unplug the router) but I've tested at the master socket with the same result.
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: gingerjedi on Mar 06, 2009, 12:09:08
I've just noticed that IDNET offer a phone and BB package, is this the complete package i.e. line rental, calls and BB? If so I will be switching ASAP.
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Rik on Mar 06, 2009, 12:11:38
It is. :)
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: gingerjedi on Mar 06, 2009, 12:21:53
So faulty line enquiries would be dealt with by IDNET, no calling BT.... this is the Nirvana of packages.

WHY DIDN'T I KNOW ABOUT THIS!!!
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: cavillas on Mar 06, 2009, 12:28:29
You really should read the IDnet Page more often. ;D

The only reason I won't change to their phone at the moment is that I am with BT option whatever with free phone calls  24/7 and no charge on 0845, 08700 etc and it costs £16 a month.  When Idnet offer a comparable package I will change as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Sebby on Mar 06, 2009, 13:46:56
Unfortunately, Talk Talk's customer service is the pits. I hope you get it sorted one way or another. :fingers:
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Colin Burns on Mar 06, 2009, 14:10:47
Quote from: Sebby on Mar 05, 2009, 23:27:25
Afaik, there would be a physical line move at the exchange, so it does sound related.

I didn't know that one as i thought that while you were using BT wholesale ADSL they couldnt put you onto there equipment and had to use BT's
Title: Re: Moved voice provider HELP!!
Post by: Rik on Mar 10, 2009, 14:53:17
It depends on whether the line was unbundled to CWP, or it was done purely as a carrier selection. The latter should have made no difference, the former should have stopped it working altogether.