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Title: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Noreen on Jan 30, 2009, 10:43:55
I had a notification this morning that there was an "Important" Windows Update re Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack and .NET Framework...... I've tried three times so far to install it and each time it fails at 99% with Error Code 80070026. I don't really understand anything about this and would be grateful for any help. I'm running Vista Ultimate and I've never had an Update fail before.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 30, 2009, 10:47:34
I couldn't find any solutions out there, Noreen, only other reports of the problem and the suggestion that people raise it with MS (it's free).
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Simon on Jan 30, 2009, 10:49:41
I would be inclined to forget it for now, Noreen, and try again later, or tomorrow.  They are bound to be aware of the problem.  :)
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Noreen on Jan 30, 2009, 10:51:51
Is this NET thing important?
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 30, 2009, 10:52:26
It depends on what apps you run that might use it.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Simon on Jan 30, 2009, 10:56:22
The only thing I've noticed that needs it on mine, is Sony Soundforge, an audio editing suite.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: J!ll on Jan 30, 2009, 10:56:58
I've got a similar problem, I just ignore mine  :shake:
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Ray on Jan 30, 2009, 10:59:48
May be Vista related, it's just installed OK on my XP machine and also installed with no problem on my Home Server a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 30, 2009, 11:01:28
All the reports I could find did involve Vista.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Simon on Jan 30, 2009, 11:01:46
I guess it could be tried with UAC turned off?
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Steve on Jan 30, 2009, 11:03:05
I am trying it now on the vista laptop its taking ages to install,went fine on the server yesterday.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Glenn on Jan 30, 2009, 11:17:54
Possibly try deleting the update from the Windows\SoftwareDistribution\downloads folder then download it again
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Steve on Jan 30, 2009, 11:21:11
No help installed ok on my Vista laptop, you could try turning AV off whilst its installing and do as Glenn said
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Noreen on Jan 30, 2009, 11:38:59
Thanks, I think that I'll leave it for a little while and see what happens.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Lance on Jan 30, 2009, 13:13:18
Mine installed fine on my Vista laptop last night without turning off antivirus of UAC. No help I know!

My desktop hasn't yet been offered the update.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: ducky22 on Jan 30, 2009, 13:22:51
Downloading and install the patch manually - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=ab99342f-5d1a-413d-8319-81da479ab0d7&displaylang=en

I've had some issues with 'HyperV Server' and windows updates and have had to install quite a few manually recently :-(.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Sebby on Jan 30, 2009, 14:11:42
Quote from: Rik on Jan 30, 2009, 11:01:28
All the reports I could find did involve Vista.

What are you trying to say? :P
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 30, 2009, 15:04:30
That it doesn't seem to have affected XP users, or people with Macs. ;)
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Sebby on Jan 30, 2009, 16:03:06
That's because XP and Macs are perfect. :-*
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 30, 2009, 16:07:08
 ;D

I know, now all we have to do is convert the others. :)
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Glenn on Jan 30, 2009, 16:11:54
These jokers that use quaint OS, get with the times, Windows 7 :whistle:
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 30, 2009, 16:12:18
I prefer the Telegraph, Glenn. :)
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Sebby on Jan 30, 2009, 16:21:42
:hehe:
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Glenn on Jan 30, 2009, 16:22:51
Quote from: Rik on Jan 30, 2009, 16:12:18
I prefer the Telegraph, Glenn. :)

You could get it Mailed to you via Express delivery, using an Independent courier who is the Guardian of the roads with a Sunny disposition, always checking in his Mirror while he listens to the Sport on the radio.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 30, 2009, 16:39:41
You have got a bad case of the Davids. ;D
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Glenn on Jan 30, 2009, 16:41:01
It's the drugs I tell you, the David's sound much worse :angel:
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 30, 2009, 16:42:07
His piano playing or...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Noreen on Jan 30, 2009, 17:25:42
Quote from: Glenn on Jan 30, 2009, 11:17:54
Possibly try deleting the update from the Windows\SoftwareDistribution\downloads folder then download it again
I've four folders, all with long names of numbers and letters and all dated this morning in Windows\Software Distribution\ Downloads. Should I just delete those folders?
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Glenn on Jan 30, 2009, 17:27:21
Noreen, rename them then if it work delete them
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Noreen on Jan 30, 2009, 17:40:35
Thanks, I'm also a bit worried about turning off my NOD32 antivirus to download this Update, isn't it risky?
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 30, 2009, 17:46:31
It is, but not hugely so.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Philip on Jan 30, 2009, 17:54:31
Installed ok on Vista here, with nothing turned off. :thumb:
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Noreen on Jan 30, 2009, 18:02:40
I'm going to try again later.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Noreen on Jan 31, 2009, 12:29:04
Tried again this morning, renamed the items in the download folder and turned off NOD32 but got the same result. However I later restarted and it went straight into a check disk saying that some files needed to be checked. Not sure now whether I had something wrong that also caused the Update to not install or whether the failed Update had caused a problem. 
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 31, 2009, 12:31:17
Did CHKDSK complete OK?
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Noreen on Jan 31, 2009, 12:42:41
Yes but I can't remember how to find out what it did.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 31, 2009, 12:45:23
Me neither, I've only ever read what it said at the time.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Noreen on Jan 31, 2009, 12:49:50
It didn't really give me time to read it.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 31, 2009, 12:52:50
That's the annoying thing with these programs, unless you time the puse key just right, you never do know what was going on.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Steve on Jan 31, 2009, 12:55:51
Allegedly its here in Vista from Control Panel classic view Admin tools

It's located in Event Viewer -> windows protocols -> application, item "wininit".
Alternatively, when running next scandisk, just insert USB flash drive before the scan. After Vista reboots, you will find the log file in the root of USB drive

Whether this is correct I don't know as on XP today
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Glenn on Jan 31, 2009, 12:58:14
http://www.vistax64.com/software/97894-finding-chkdsk-log-file-vista.html

Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Steve on Jan 31, 2009, 13:01:02
That's where I found it ;D I just omiited the czech to make it sound less dodgy. :blush:
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Noreen on Jan 31, 2009, 13:16:39
I did a search online and then managed to find this, dated this morning.
QuoteOne of your disks needs to be checked for consistency. You
may cancel the disk check, but it is strongly recommended
that you continue.
Windows will now check the disk.                         
  96384 file records processed.                                 

  347 large file records processed.                           

  0 bad file records processed.                             

  2 EA records processed.                                   

  44 reparse records processed.                               

  129300 index entries processed.                                 

  0 unindexed files processed.                               

  96384 security descriptors processed.                         

Cleaning up 481 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 481 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 481 unused security descriptors.
  16459 data files processed.                                   

CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
  34940568 USN bytes processed.                                     

Usn Journal verification completed.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the
master file table (MFT) bitmap.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the volume bitmap.
Windows has made corrections to the file system.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 31, 2009, 14:39:15
It looks like it's cleaned up the disk OK. Have you still not managed to get the update to install?
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Noreen on Jan 31, 2009, 17:38:29
Haven't tried again yet, not brave enough. ;D
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 31, 2009, 17:40:21
I installed it this afternoon, but of course that was in XP. It did take a long time to install, with both cores being heavily loaded.
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Noreen on Jan 31, 2009, 17:56:40
Would what was cleaned up account for the Update failing to install?
Title: Re: Failed Windows Update
Post by: Rik on Jan 31, 2009, 18:00:05
It shouldn't do, but we are talking Windows. :(