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Title: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 12:41:10
I have been a little confused with the issue of a Hub,I was under the impresion that the router did this,but as I look more into this am I correct in thinking if I want to create a home network....sharing printer etc....will I need a hub.looking at the latest diagram (picked up today) I will....am I corrrect in this line of thought.

It wouldbe a hardwired as I prefer this.....might just leave one laptop wireless though but am I thinking right here ?
Title: Re: Simple questio Hub
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2009, 12:47:14
Whether you need an additional hub/switch would depend on how many devices you want to connect, David. A conventional router is a combined modem and hub. If you need more than four ethernet connections, you would have to connect a switch to the router, and allow the switch to do all the LAN work, eg DHCP. Depending on your needs to network the laptop, ie does it only need a 'net connection or does it need to speak to other machines on your LAN, the process is fairly simple.
Title: Re: Simple questio Hub
Post by: Steve on Jan 23, 2009, 12:55:04
In addition if you want to network a USB printer(as most are these days) and not attach it to live computer you'll need a hub with a USB port
Title: Re: Simple questio Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 12:55:33
The network its self would benefit by  being online for lessons etc. there will be 3 machines,and a printer,so if you could envisage a pc in each room 3.at some time in the day they would be used for eductional purposes so the need to share both data and pictures would be good.

Other times to share the usual music from one pc to the other.Only one needs to be connected online so to speak. if thats clear
Title: Re: Simple questio Hub
Post by: Ray on Jan 23, 2009, 12:57:03
I use one of these (http://netgear.com/Products/Switches/DesktopSwitches/GS605.aspx) on my network, David, the router connects to this together with all my PCs. With this particular model your network can operate up to Gigabit speed depending on the speed of your PCs network card.
Title: Re: Simple questio Hub
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2009, 12:59:08
As most recent mobos include gigabit ethernet, there's a big advantage to be gained, of course.
Title: Re: Simple questio Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 13:09:05
This looks just the thing Im looking for,the diagram is spot on,so this would be an addition to my existing router and I assume that you can switch it somehow to enable the network ?
Its OK Im just trying to make sense of what Im looking at.

So if I buy this hub no issues with router 2 wire 2700 ?
Title: Re: Simple questio Hub
Post by: Steve on Jan 23, 2009, 13:14:13
Generally with the hub/switch everything is automatic ,plug your cables in power it up and off you go.You may need to plug the cable from the 2700HGv into a specific port i.e no 1 otherwise no other issues I can think of.
Title: Re: Simple questio Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 13:17:00
Thanks Steve and all.now it makes a little more sense....(hub shopping this weekend)  :whistle:
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 13:29:25
QuoteI use one of these on my network, David, the router connects to this together with all my PCs. With this particular model your network can operate up to Gigabit speed depending on the speed of your PCs network card.

Quotehttp://www.dabs.com/ProductList.aspx?SearchTerms=Netgear%20GS605%20&SearchMode=All&SearchKey=All&PageMode=3&NavigationKey=0&SearchType=1


Im amazed at the price I thought they would be mega money. :thumb:

Amazon have this for £27.70 Im amazed
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 13:38:48
Just read the reviews,its post free on the super saver not one bad review.job done I think  :thumb:
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Steve on Jan 23, 2009, 13:42:18
And you get some nice flashing lights when its all working
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 13:43:22
How did you know I like flashing lights  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Ray on Jan 23, 2009, 13:55:31
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jan 23, 2009, 13:38:48
Just read the reviews,its post free on the super saver not one bad review.job done I think  :thumb:

Yes it's a good piece of kit, David, I've had mine for over 12 months with no problems, you'll be wanting Cat 5 or 6 cable and wall outlets next then.  ;)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 13:57:07
Yes......................google  ?
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Ray on Jan 23, 2009, 14:09:41

Here's a start for you, David, cable (http://www.screwfix.com/prods/10218/Electrical-Supplies/Cable/Data-Cable/Labgear-UTP-CAT5E-Beige-Data-Cable)

and Faceplates and Jacks (http://www.screwfix.com/cats/A331842/Electrical-Supplies/Data-Networking/Keystone)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 14:15:00
 :karma: Thanks Ray appreciated....Hub ordered,just working out the rest and will order,although I live quite close to Screwfix



Wheres my toolbox  ;D
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Ray on Jan 23, 2009, 14:21:10
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jan 23, 2009, 14:15:00
:karma: Thanks Ray appreciated....Hub ordered,just working out the rest and will order,although I live quite close to Screwfix



Wheres my toolbox  ;D

:ithank: hope all goes well when you start.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 14:35:37
Roll on Wednesday.Im stripping the rooms for redec so its a great time for this Ray
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: somanyholes on Jan 23, 2009, 14:48:34
always use switches if possible hubs are cr** ;)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2009, 15:08:26
Especially Royal Mail ones. ;)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 17:48:35
Burns ?
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2009, 17:52:27
Indeed - 250 on Sunday. :)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 17:57:52
He has a look of Byron ,or am I mixing up my poets now ?
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2009, 18:02:23
No, it's 18th C man - they all look a bit like that. ;)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 18:24:08
Looks like Russell Brand after a shave and a bath  ;D
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2009, 18:41:06
That would make a nice change. :)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 18:44:20
No Burns was both gifted and humble,from what Im reading  ;)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2009, 18:50:02
He was. Not to mention randy, of course. ;)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 18:57:02
Well at least he had a partner RB seems to have perfected this as a solo  ;)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Noreen on Jan 23, 2009, 19:04:54
Rik, you might be interested in this when it's available. http://www.naxosaudiobooks.com/PAGES/196812.htm
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 23, 2009, 19:08:16
Well Im tempted Noreen
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Rik on Jan 24, 2009, 08:31:03
I will be, Noreen, thanks.  :-*
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: pup on Jan 26, 2009, 22:30:09
resurrecting the original subject of this thread  ;D could I (how) connect two laptops wirelessly, a usb printer and an external usb hard drive. with no "main pc" I have a speedtouch 585 router.
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Steve on Jan 26, 2009, 22:43:24
Belkin do a network usb hub see here (http://www.belkin.com/networkusbhub/) no experience of it though
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Sebby on Jan 26, 2009, 23:54:11
Quote from: pup on Jan 26, 2009, 22:30:09
resurrecting the original subject of this thread  ;D could I (how) connect two laptops wirelessly, a usb printer and an external usb hard drive. with no "main pc" I have a speedtouch 585 router.

You need a print server, or a new router that has USB ports for printer/hard drive.
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Lance on Jan 27, 2009, 13:35:04
I think you're coming at this from the wrong way. He clearly needs a NAS box and a new printer with built in networking!
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Sebby on Jan 27, 2009, 14:13:15
That's another option. :)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Steve on Jan 27, 2009, 16:10:47
Or NAS box with USB printer port
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: pup on Jan 27, 2009, 22:42:38
Quote from: Lance on Jan 27, 2009, 13:35:04
I think you're coming at this from the wrong way. He clearly needs a NAS box and a new printer with built in networking!

Im not made of money Lance  :o

What is a NAS box? (dare I ask?)

Quote from: Sebby on Jan 26, 2009, 23:54:11
new router that has USB ports for printer/hard drive.

any recommendations?
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Steve on Jan 27, 2009, 22:48:37
Well here's  (http://www.buffalo-technology.com/products/network-storage/linkstation/linkstation-live-with-bittorrent/)an example of a NAS with a USB port to attach a printer to.
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Sebby on Jan 27, 2009, 23:21:22
Quote from: pup on Jan 27, 2009, 22:42:38
any recommendations?

I don't know of any specific models off hand. :(
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Lance on Jan 27, 2009, 23:52:56
Nas stands for network attached storage. Basically its an external hard drive, a hard drives, with a wired network connection. Many of the boxes support various forms of raid.
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 31, 2009, 11:45:23
Well it arrived..........hope the speed it works at is faster than the time it took to arrive  ;D might get the router to match  :laugh:
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Rik on Jan 31, 2009, 11:48:21
You did remember the extra cable you'll need, didn't you?
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 31, 2009, 12:08:39
Yes  ;D
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Rik on Jan 31, 2009, 12:11:02
Phew. :)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 31, 2009, 12:15:12
Dont know how to do it but got everything.....................have to order a faceplate for the upstairs but thats cosmetic and Im in no hurry for once   ;D
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Rik on Jan 31, 2009, 12:17:22
Plug A into B, plug the computers into A, job done. ;)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Glenn on Jan 31, 2009, 12:21:48
What's A and what's B?
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 31, 2009, 12:22:27
God,why do you have to confuse the issue Rik.....I hate it when people use jargon  ;D



And you didnt mention the nice lighty up bits  ;)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 31, 2009, 12:24:32
QuoteWhat's A and what's B?

Have you been at Dens medicine Glenn  :laugh:
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Glenn on Jan 31, 2009, 12:24:42
Computer > hub > Router
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Glenn on Jan 31, 2009, 12:25:21
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jan 31, 2009, 12:24:32
Have you been at Dens medicine Glenn  :laugh:

Nah I've got my own, I can fly weeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 31, 2009, 12:27:40
QuoteComputer > hub > Router

Damn I knew I woud forget something,where will I get some of these Glenn ..  >>>>>>>
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Rik on Jan 31, 2009, 12:30:40
I'm letting David decide.  >:D
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 31, 2009, 12:36:38
QuoteI'm letting David decide.

Rely on me I wont let decide down  ;)
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Glenn on Jan 31, 2009, 12:40:24
It looks like you have more >'s than I have already  ;D
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 31, 2009, 12:42:54
Over ordered again still you can never have enough of these I think,and always look after your >>> and they will look after you  ;D
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Steve on Jan 31, 2009, 12:57:39
Its a switch not a hub isn't? ;D
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 31, 2009, 13:02:17
I'm worried if it will be good though,it is unmanageable
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Ray on Jan 31, 2009, 13:17:15
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jan 31, 2009, 13:02:17
I'm worried if it will be good though,it is unmanageable

If you've got the Netgear one it will be fine, it doesn't need to be manageable for your use and like Steve said it's a switch.  ;D
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: David on Jan 31, 2009, 13:18:59
I have the same one as you Ray  ;D

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Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Ray on Jan 31, 2009, 13:44:57
Looks fine, David.  ;)  :thumb:
Title: Re: Simple question Hub
Post by: Sebby on Jan 31, 2009, 14:38:39
Nice, David. :)