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Title: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: somanyholes on Jan 05, 2009, 08:14:09
Police set to step up hacking of home PCs

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5439604.ece

This is wrong on so many levels.
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: Steve on Jan 05, 2009, 08:36:47
I agree, not that I have anything to fear,however I wonder how effective the standard hardware and software security that many PC users use will be.
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: J!ll on Jan 05, 2009, 08:39:30
 :shake:
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: somanyholes on Jan 05, 2009, 08:40:17
as effective as it usually is. Which is probably not very. No doubt the gov will ask security vendors to exclude their code from alerting the end user.
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: Rik on Jan 05, 2009, 09:06:40
QuoteThe Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) said such intrusive surveillance was closely regulated under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act

Well that's OK, then. This would be the same RIPA that councils have been using to snoop on people?
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: kinmel on Jan 05, 2009, 09:13:07
Extremism Governments have always seen what they do as being reasonable because "The Project" is too important to be delayed by trifles such as democracy, freedom and privacy.

They also like to create more and more crimes for which they can imprison (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/philipjohnston/4109358/Why-is-Labour-so-keen-to-imprison-us.html) you.

In 1997 who would have thought St Tony was about to set up the most illiberal regime the UK has ever known ?
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: somanyholes on Jan 05, 2009, 09:19:25
QuoteThey also like to create more and more crimes for which they can imprison you.


interesting read that. Is this why our prison's are so full today :)
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: Rik on Jan 05, 2009, 09:21:34
It does seem that liberty is a price this Govt is willing to pay for an ordered society, doesn't it. :(
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: somanyholes on Jan 05, 2009, 09:29:48
ordered according to their own idea of law, as opposed to anyone else's.....
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: Rik on Jan 05, 2009, 09:33:41
Indeed. Makes you want to emigrate, doesn't it. :(
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: Simon on Jan 05, 2009, 09:53:37
I guess the security software vendors will be busy after reading that.  It does appear to be dependant on them installing the spyware on your PC, which isn't that easy for security aware users, with good solid protection.  Other than breaking into your house, of course!
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: Rik on Jan 05, 2009, 09:57:42
Being an agoraphobic might have its advantages. ;D
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: Simon on Jan 05, 2009, 10:35:34
:lol:
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: D-Dan on Jan 05, 2009, 20:26:47
What's the worry? It's a government initiative. They break in, they steal your data, they lose it...and 18 months later a backbencher exposes their loss and the tabloids tell the world about it.

I'm not at all worried.

Steve
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: Rik on Jan 06, 2009, 08:41:14
 :rofl: :karmic:

Good point, Steve. :)
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: somanyholes on Jan 12, 2009, 12:11:38
might be of interest

http://blogs.hackerscenter.com/2009/01/police-backdoors.html

this bit sounds about right

QuoteSymantec declined to comment on whether it would block a police hack, saying the matter was "politically sensitive". However, the security vendor has said in the past that it would not scan for the FBI's Magic Lantern keystroke-logging software.
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: Rik on Jan 12, 2009, 12:16:48
I can't argue with the logic, So, the real question is 'will security vendors tell us whether they are co-operating'? To my mind, it would be financial suicide to do so, so my best is that they won't say at all, leaving us to wonder if we are truly safe.
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: kinmel on Jan 12, 2009, 12:37:29
Quote from: Rik on Jan 12, 2009, 12:16:48
I can't argue with the logic, So, the real question is 'will security vendors tell us whether they are co-operating'? To my mind, it would be financial suicide to do so, so my best is that they won't say at all, leaving us to wonder if we are truly safe.

So we need to run 2 security systems side by side, in the hope that they both don't roll over on the same day.

I am not sure anyone can keep such things secret anymore, their control of the proletariat is weakening every year.
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: Rik on Jan 12, 2009, 12:38:57
They'll try, Alan, commercial confidentiality and all that.
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: Sebby on Jan 12, 2009, 13:44:37
How long before they can search our homes without a warrant?
Title: Re: Happy new year. Let's start as we mean to go on ....
Post by: Rik on Jan 12, 2009, 15:23:53
If they can break in to plant a keylogger without one, Seb, I think the point is moot.  :(