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Title: Glow doesn't
Post by: Rik on Jan 10, 2007, 17:28:16
I've been playing with Opera, FireFox 2 and IE6 today. During the course of my comparisons, I noticed that the glow effect in these forums does not work on either of my machines in Opera/FF, but does in IE6. Stevelondon reports it's OK for him in FF.

To eliminate video driver issues, I've checked all three browsers on two machines, the appearance is the same, so I then looked at the source code, and this appears to differ with FF2 showing background, rather than glow, ie:

FF page source

<div class="post"><span style="background-color: red;">Gravity</span><br /><br />

IE6 page source

<div class="post"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="display: inline; vertical-align: middle; font: inherit;"><tr><td style="filter: Glow(color=red, strength=2); font: inherit;">Gravity</td></tr></table> <br /><br />

This seems to suggest that I have a setting 'wrong' in both FF2 and Opera, so any advice would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: Nerval on Jan 10, 2007, 17:36:34
What's the glow supposed to look like then?
When I look at the word here (http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,658.msg18725.html#msg18725), there is a bright red background.  (FF latest)
Should it do something different?

And where do you look at the source code?
All sounds very exciting.


Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: stevelondon on Jan 10, 2007, 18:06:15
The only way i know is to right click on the page>view page source
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: Rik on Jan 10, 2007, 18:08:01
I'm seeing the same as you, Nerv. In IE6, however, it's more like a neon glow of red wrapping around the letter shapes. Nice to know you're seeing the same, though - maybe everyone is, and thought that was how it was meant to be. It could be that the glow effect is a non-standard, works with IE, thing?  ???
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: Rik on Jan 10, 2007, 18:09:02
Quote from: stevelondon on Jan 10, 2007, 18:06:15
The only way i know is to right click on the page>view page source

What do you see, Steve. What I have for IE6 or what I have for FF? For that matter, to avoid confusion, do you get the red b/g or the neon effect?
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: stevelondon on Jan 10, 2007, 18:17:05
Ive just checked each browser and they show the glow differently depends which one you use i use FF but heres the difference.

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Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: stevelondon on Jan 10, 2007, 18:20:59
IE version
i had to post em seperate



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Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: Rik on Jan 10, 2007, 18:22:46
Thanks Steve, that's exactly what I see.
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: stevelondon on Jan 10, 2007, 18:25:16
So it is working for you just different styles, i never knew till i just checked quiet a difference between the two innit.
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: Rik on Jan 10, 2007, 18:31:27
Same here Steve. It's not till you try the two sets of browsers that you know. I'm just curious as to the difference in the HTML, does it indicate that the board recognises the browser in use and alters the code to some MS variation from the standard.  ???
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: Rik on Jan 11, 2007, 11:03:00
Confirmation from Simon that the board does respond differently to different browsers, so people should probably bear that in mind before glowing.
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: RJM on Jan 11, 2007, 11:51:24
I know with IE there are settings you can change so what you view is seen in a different way -  afraid, I cannot remember how though as I only tend to use Firefox these days.

Talking of Firefox, I did not realize how some of the themes available can slow your browsing down. I quite often change the themes and the latest one I have decided on has a made a vast difference. (Road Signs)
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: Rik on Jan 11, 2007, 12:00:48
Quote from: RJM on Jan 11, 2007, 11:51:24
I know with IE there are settings you can change so what you view is seen in a different way -  afraid, I cannot remember how though as I only tend to use Firefox these days.

Me neither, and I don't think it's worth trying to chase it down!

QuoteTalking of Firefox, I did not realize how some of the themes available can slow your browsing down. I quite often change the themes and the latest one I have decided on has a made a vast difference. (Road Signs)

You're talking to someone who insists on using Classic mode in Windows to avoid any performance hit, with just about every effect except ClearType turned off.
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: ou7shined on Jan 11, 2007, 16:05:38
Nobody's mentioned IE7 yet. So just for the record, as I'm trying it out, I see it neon like Steve does.
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: Rik on Jan 11, 2007, 16:16:14
Thanks for that. Makes me think it has to be one of M$ non-compliant bits of HTML.

At least we know the results for all four major browsers now! :)

PS I should probably add that Opera looks identical to FireFox.
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: ou7shined on Jan 11, 2007, 16:42:22
I know it's probably of no real interest to anyone but I just checked and "glowing" in Opera Mini 2 produces a solid background to the text with no neon effect. :)
Title: Re: Glow doesn't
Post by: Rik on Jan 11, 2007, 16:46:46
So it's the same as 'normal' Opera. Thanks for that, it all adds to the database.