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Title: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Lance on Nov 13, 2008, 08:41:49
As reported by the BBC here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7726174.stm). I wonder how many of these will be in its broadband support or Openreach...
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Inactive on Nov 13, 2008, 09:09:34
So, they rob their existing staff by cutting pensions, sack 10.000 more.

Well we all know what will happen to BT service levels then. >:(
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 13, 2008, 09:45:40
That new pension deal was an appalling move on an already closed scheme. :(
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Noreen on Nov 13, 2008, 17:22:50
Quite worrying for my family as my nephew works for Openreach.
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 13, 2008, 17:25:58
I can imagine, Noreen. At one time, you'd have thought BT was secure again after the closing of the pension scheme and all the earlier job cuts. :(
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Colin Burns on Nov 16, 2008, 01:16:03
na they will just bring in apprentises and get shot of them when the time comes to pay them propper rates.
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Noreen on Nov 16, 2008, 10:56:31
Quote from: Noreen on Nov 13, 2008, 17:22:50
Quite worrying for my family as my nephew works for Openreach.
So far he hasn't heard any bad news but we're all keeping our fingers crossed.  :fingers:
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 16, 2008, 11:02:59
I'll join you, Noreen.  :fingers:
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Sebby on Nov 16, 2008, 18:17:15
I'm waiting for the headline "BT to shed 10,000 exchanges". ;) :out:
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 16, 2008, 18:20:16
It will probably happen one day, Seb. If there is a move to fibre, the function of a local exchange is, to a great extent, negated.
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Sebby on Nov 16, 2008, 18:20:41
Indeed. :)
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 16, 2008, 18:21:36
We can dream, can't we. :)
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Sebby on Nov 16, 2008, 18:23:11
I don't doubt it'll happen one day, but I just think it's a long way away, even in my lifetime!
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Lance on Nov 16, 2008, 22:36:56
Quote from: Rik on Nov 16, 2008, 18:20:16
It will probably happen one day, Seb. If there is a move to fibre, the function of a local exchange is, to a great extent, negated.

But is it though? They will still need somewhere for all the bits of fibre from the cabinets to come together, and then go into one big bit of fibre!

Although the use of the exchange may change, I think there will still be a need for them.
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Inactive on Nov 17, 2008, 00:19:05
Well if they do ever get rid of them, there will be a nice bungalow shell of a building for sale just down the road from me. ;)
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 09:37:55
Quote from: Lance on Nov 16, 2008, 22:36:56
Although the use of the exchange may change, I think there will still be a need for them.

I suspect that the size of the 'building' will be much smaller though, Lance, and may come down to being a 'super cabinet'.
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 09:38:16
Quote from: Inactive on Nov 17, 2008, 00:19:05
Well if they do ever get rid of them, there will be a nice bungalow shell of a building for sale just down the road from me. ;)

Is that a bid I hear? ;)
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Inactive on Nov 17, 2008, 09:40:36
Could be Rik, as long as they leave one nice fast connection for me..  ;)
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 09:43:27
They could leave the backhaul in situ and make it really good value. ;)
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Sebby on Nov 17, 2008, 12:57:21
:hehe:
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Inactive on Nov 17, 2008, 13:05:07
I may develop the idea. ;D
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 13:06:07
Been in a dark room then, In? ;D :out:
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Sebby on Nov 17, 2008, 13:07:37
Quote from: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 13:06:07
Been in a dark room then, In? ;D :out:

Must have been the telephone exchange!
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Inactive on Nov 17, 2008, 13:09:58
Quote from: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 13:06:07
Been in a dark room then, In? ;D :out:

Some have told me that it may help me. ;D
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 13:11:39
Not me, I think you need a broad canvas and bright lights. :)
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Inactive on Nov 17, 2008, 13:15:18
I'll ask my trick cyclist her opinion. ;)
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 14:39:59
If she's anything like mine, she won't give one. :)
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Ann on Nov 17, 2008, 15:52:13
I think if they're going to sack people we should get a vote on who goes.. my vote is for Mr Liverthingy, that would save a fortune.
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 15:55:28
I'm with you there, Ann. At least Uncle Ben was useful.
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Simon on Nov 17, 2008, 20:29:46
What happened to Uncle Ben?
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Sebby on Nov 17, 2008, 22:16:22
He stepped down, but I'm not sure why. He probably felt that he'd achieved all he wanted to during the 6 years he was there. :)
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Lance on Nov 17, 2008, 22:30:00
He went back to selling rice...
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Simon on Nov 17, 2008, 23:00:20
:argh:  :grn:
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Ann on Nov 17, 2008, 23:07:02
 :lol:

He's really CEO of Alcatel-Lucent, telecoms company in Paris.
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 08:41:48
Their gain is our loss, sadly. :(
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Ann on Nov 18, 2008, 14:40:36
Actually I think that maybe my email to Liverthingy did do some good.  They've now upgraded my exchange as far as it can go which isn't enough but gives me a usable connection at peak times.  Of course they'll say it was going to happen anyway but just maybe my bugging him helped.  It certainly got me some information about it which I wasn't getting before.  So just a little kissy for Mr Liverthingy  :-*
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Inactive on Nov 18, 2008, 14:46:30
Blimey, you have soon changed your tune Ann, less than 24 hours ago .. you were going to sack him. ;D

Wimmin.. :shake:
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Ann on Nov 18, 2008, 14:50:21
I'm just a bit fickle  :blush:

But I'll change again if they put the 21st century upgrade thing back any more.  Mine is set for March and I can wait until then.
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 16:02:20
I've seen reports that people are having dates put back again, Ann. :( It looks like BT are struggling to cope right now.
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Sebby on Nov 18, 2008, 17:11:35
I've just noticed that my exchange has been upgraded. To say I'm shocked is an understatement!

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/LNBAR
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 17:22:17
I'd print that and frame it, Seb. ;D
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Sebby on Nov 18, 2008, 17:23:13
I may just do that. ;D
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Lance on Nov 18, 2008, 19:44:25
I've still not got a date for mine, but PSTN is Q1 2009 :(
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 19, 2008, 08:58:12
IAC, Lance, I suspect the benefits on our lines will be minimal.
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Sebby on Nov 19, 2008, 13:13:58
Yep, ideally you want an attenuation of no more than 40 or so dB for there to be a decent improvement.
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Lance on Nov 19, 2008, 14:09:50
Quote from: Rik on Nov 19, 2008, 08:58:12
IAC, Lance, I suspect the benefits on our lines will be minimal.

I suspect that you are right, Rik.  :'(
Title: Re: BT shedding 10,000 jobs
Post by: Rik on Nov 19, 2008, 14:52:02
We just can't win, can we. :(