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Firmware Version 84.05.04 has just been released by AVM for the Fritz!Box 7390. My box has re-synched at its old ADSL2+ settings; however, some cousins 'down under' are suggesting that their ADSL connections are slightly slower.
NB: For those not familiar with this modem/router, the box has both ADSL/FTTC connectivity as well as an integrated DECT base station, answer phone, VOIP and media server functions.
New with version 84.05.04:
Internet: New - Child protection with filters for Internetpages and utilities
Internet: New - Support for DS-Lite to connect to IPv4-adresses using native IPv6 access
Internet: automatic setup by the internet provider via TR-069 with added IPv6 support
Internet: IPv6 - new tunneling protocol RFC 5969: IPv6 Rapid Deployment on IPv4 Infrastructures (6rd)
Internet: IPv6 - Workaround: Windows 7 did not accept the same Prefix once it was invalidated without a reboot
Internet: Import of VPN-settings improved
Internet: Added support of VPN-connections to Microsoft TMG-Servers
Internet: improved DynamicDNS-registration
Internet: improved DNSSEC-support
DECT: New : FRITZ!Fon MT-F now supports English, French, German, Italian and Spanish (depending on the language configured in the FRITZ!Box Webinterface)
DECT: New - DECT repeater function, display RSS-Feeds with included pictures on FRITZ!Fon MT-F
DECT: New - use your own MP3-Ringtone on MT-F
DECT: acceleration of menues and lists, improved handling of the phonebook, caller-list and answering-machine on MT-F
Telephony: open received faxes and messages from the calls-list
Telephony: added third alarm
Telephony: signaling of missed calls on IP-telehones (MWI)
Telephony: improved fax interop (T.38)
Storage (NAS) : New - Mediaserver and home-network-sharing (smb) can be renamed
Storage (NAS) : New - Mediaserver can be restriced to certain partitions (UPnP-AC)
Storage (NAS) : New - seperate passwords for home-network-sharing and internet
Storage (NAS) : New - available FRITZ!Box shares shown in network-enviroment (smb share announcement)
Storage (NAS) : revamped UPnP-AV Mediaserver 4.0
System: New - import settings from older FRITZ!Box modules (selective)
System: New - display active phone calls or network activity on the FRITZ!Box home-screen.
System: TR-064 - Automated telephony-device setup for FRITZ!App Fon
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Router is total tosh on my ADSL Max line, nothing but resyncs
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Router is total tosh on my ADSL Max line, nothing but resyncs
Working fine here on ADSL2+. Synch rate has increased to 17.9Mbps and the box holds a pretty stable connection down to 2 SNR. (Synched for nearly 2 days now with CRC rates/min of 0.23 down and 0.19 up). I get a re-synch about every 2 to 3 days on average. The synch drops by a couple of hundred and then the next time it increases. I am sure that I could rectify this by moving the Line Settings but I see no point given that synch speed is not really changing.
I note that there is discussion on the 'down under' website the the RC firmware holds the synch better on long/noisy lines. Others have used the recovery tool and re-installed the firmware. My only minor complaint is the odd phantom DECT phone call.
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Gone back to 84.05.04-19804
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AVM has just released firmware version 84.05.05 for the Fritz!Box 7390. Changes are as follows:
Important: This firmware is only intended for use with FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7390 International Edition
Product : FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7390
Version : 84.05.05
Language : English, French, Italian, Spanish
Annex : A and B
New Features : - Child protection with filters for Internetpages and utilities
- FRITZ!Fon MT-F now supports 5 languages
- DECT repeater function, display RSS-Feeds with included pictures on FRITZ!Fon MT-F
- Support for DS-Lite to connect to IPv4-adresses using native IPv6 access
Internet: added new profiles for netherlands
Internet: fixed profiles for namibia
System: various fixed in the web interface
Upgrade via Fritz!Box rang smoothly and there is no change in my connection speeds or profile. Interesting to see if this version is as stable on ADSL2+ as its predecessor (9 days constant connection with low error rate prior to upgrade)
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AVM has just released firmware version 84.05.05 for the Fritz!Box 7390. Changes are as follows:
Important: This firmware is only intended for use with FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7390 International Edition
Product : FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7390
Version : 84.05.05
Language : English, French, Italian, Spanish
Annex : A and B
New Features : - Child protection with filters for Internetpages and utilities
- FRITZ!Fon MT-F now supports 5 languages
- DECT repeater function, display RSS-Feeds with included pictures on FRITZ!Fon MT-F
- Support for DS-Lite to connect to IPv4-adresses using native IPv6 access
Internet: added new profiles for netherlands
Internet: fixed profiles for namibia
System: various fixed in the web interface
Upgrade via Fritz!Box rang smoothly and there is no change in my connection speeds or profile. Interesting to see if this version is as stable on ADSL2+ as its predecessor (9 days constant connection with low error rate prior to upgrade)
Thanks Ardua, will give it a try sometime this week
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New firmware for the Fritz!Box 7390 has just been released. It would appear that the firmware has to be uploaded via the router firmware update (i.e.; no option any longer to download the file to the desktop).
Changes:
Important: This firmware is only intended for use with FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7390 International Edition
Product : FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7390
Version : 84.05.06
Language : English, French, Italian, Spanish
Annex : A and B
New Features : - Child protection with filters for Internetpages and utilities
- FRITZ!Fon MT-F now supports 5 languages
- DECT repeater function, display RSS-Feeds with included pictures on FRITZ!Fon MT-F
- Support for DS-Lite to connect to IPv4-adresses using native IPv6 access
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New with version 84.05.06:
Internet: fixed problem in wizard
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Thanks Ardua :thumb:
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New firmware for the Fritz!Box 7390 has just been released. It would appear that the firmware has to be uploaded via the router firmware update (i.e.; no option any longer to download the file to the desktop).
Changes:
Important: This firmware is only intended for use with FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7390 International Edition
Product : FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7390
Version : 84.05.06
Language : English, French, Italian, Spanish
Annex : A and B
New Features : - Child protection with filters for Internetpages and utilities
- FRITZ!Fon MT-F now supports 5 languages
- DECT repeater function, display RSS-Feeds with included pictures on FRITZ!Fon MT-F
- Support for DS-Lite to connect to IPv4-adresses using native IPv6 access
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New with version 84.05.06:
Internet: fixed problem in wizard
Thanks Ardua, just chucked it on, tho not sure I should have as it's been stable for five days now. A world record for me
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Still hasn't fixed the 'noise' on standard telephone line connected to Fritzbox. Also, it still rings when the BT automatic line routiner checks the line. As it does this at odd hours it's a nuisance so I have to connect a standard phone into the wall socket.
Bob
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Still hasn't fixed the 'noise' on standard telephone line connected to Fritzbox. Also, it still rings when the BT automatic line routiner checks the line. As it does this at odd hours it's a nuisance so I have to connect a standard phone into the wall socket.
Bob
We get a 'phantom call' comprising of 2 rings at about 2240 most Saturday nights. How have you concluded that it is a routine BT line test? I note that some 7390 owners are also experiencing this problem 'Down Under'. The German AVM site shows about 6 beta firmware changes so no doubt we will have an International release soon. AVM is aware of the 'phantom call' issue. Of possible interest, earlier this week I had a phone line fault. Line attenuation increased by 50% and I couldn't get dial tone from a corded phone nor could anyone phone in. Conversely, with the Fritz!Fons connected to the 7390 I could get a dial tone but no dial out and when I called in the Fons would ring and disconnect immediately on pick up. No idea why.
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We get a 'phantom call' comprising of 2 rings at about 2240 most Saturday nights. How have you concluded that it is a routine BT line test?
To be honest it's a guess based on a similar problem I had some years ago with an iffy master junction box. BT engineer changed the box and problem disappeared. My phantoms arrive at various times between 21.00 and 02.00. Like yours, two rings. Just enough to wake me up. Doesn't happen with a standard telephone plugged into the telephone outlet. Unfortunately, doing that disses the DECT phones which is a downer. No good reporting to BT as it'll result in a "RWT" (Right When Tested)
Your recent attenuation problem was possibly due to an engineer working either in the exchange or a cabinet.
The 7390 is a great box for my ADSL2 connection. Gave me an additional 1.5 - 2 meg speed over my old Netgear 834g but the analogue voice line noise and phantom call problem knocks it down. It's fine on SIPGate calls.
Bob
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I get around the night time odd phantom call by using the "Do not disturb" function on the Fritz! between midnight and 6am; and use a cheap phone splitter to connect both the Fritz! with its DECTs and a single phone directly to the PTSN network, which provides a workaround for the absence of CLI on the Fritz! As you say Sipgate works perfectly, which is the phone number I give out; and the PABX function to set phones to certain numbers separately for both incoming and outgoing calls, and to time certain phones to ring only at restricted hours (useful for working from home), with the dual voiceboxes, also works perfectly.
I get 10Mbps dowload sync/throughput above what the OR modem managed (though in fairness half of that I put down to BT's 17a/bandwidth improvement). Fritz managed over 15 days up before a quick resync.
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I get around the night time odd phantom call by using the "Do not disturb" function on the Fritz! between midnight and 6am; and use a cheap phone splitter to connect both the Fritz! with its DECTs and a single phone directly to the PTSN network, which provides a workaround for the absence of CLI on the Fritz! As you say Sipgate works perfectly, which is the phone number I give out; and the PABX function to set phones to certain numbers separately for both incoming and outgoing calls, and to time certain phones to ring only at restricted hours (useful for working from home), with the dual voiceboxes, also works perfectly.
I get 10Mbps dowload sync/throughput above what the OR modem managed (though in fairness half of that I put down to BT's 17a/bandwidth improvement). Fritz managed over 15 days up before a quick resync.
I have always had CLI on all my DECT phones (2 Fons and a Gigaset). Do not disturb is also set on our bedroom phone. Despite its challenges, this is great box. I understand that the next release will have an improved ADSL2+ engine. As I am not getting a consistent 17.2Mbps I really shouldn't complain.
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Yep, I know others can get CLI at the Fritz! UI on a VDSL (FTTC) service! I can't, so I assume it must be a problem with my line (weak CLI signal, but no line fault). I doubt therefore whether any firmware upgrade would help. I've tried AVM's shorter Y-cable, which incidentally seems to have halved the (not large) accumulation of CRC errors on the broadband signal, but it hasn't benefited speeds or made any difference to the PTSN service.
;D I'm not complaining since I can get the full 88% of the reported 39992 max throughput, as close as I can get to BT's current maximum, but the dodgy line won't allow the use of the upload tones above 8.5MHz on BT's 17a profiles so that's restricted. No problem, though. I wouldn't want or need any more. At a loss to know what to do with the speed I've got, most of the time!
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I get around the night time odd phantom call by using the "Do not disturb" function on the Fritz! between midnight and 6am;
Doh! Why didn't I think of that? Don't answer! Await the new ADSL2 engine in hope. BT plan to upgrade my exchange to FTTC in 2012 so we'll have to await one or t'other, meantime DND will have to do.
Bob
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New Beta Firmware for the Fritz!Box 7390 released today on Fritz! Labs.
Version: 84.05.07-21362
Improved DSL data throughput and interoperability for VDSL
Prioritization for voice data when using FRITZ!App Fon
FRITZ!Box name can be defined for display in the home network, media server, browser call and WLAN SSID
"fritz.box" user interface optimized for access from mobile devices
Guest access can be configured on LAN port 4
Option for entering feedback integrated into each WLAN client
Edit:
Updated without any problems. Connection speed is about 0.6Mbps down on what it was. Power consumption has increased from 34 to 44%. Interface now has a box that allows users to revert back to their previous ADSl engine if connection is not achieved.
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:-\ Thanks; on the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" principle, I'll stick with the "current" firmware then - it's hit the download ceiling anyway, and though upload is limited to 50% that looks like a line issue because the Box can't get any tones above 8.5MHz. Otherwise the current firmware 8.05.06 looks perfect on my VDSL line, apart from the known hit and miss (in my case, miss) CLI on VDSL lines which doesn't seem to be a firmware issue anyway. January doesn't seem too long to wait for the next regular upgrade, if I think better of it.
EDIT: just for info: am I right that installing beta firmware loses all your settings (including internet connectivity) so you have to restore from a password-protected backup (as it won't recognise the same box) or do you have to re-enter manually? I have a lot of customised settings. Seems a bother for not very much according to the list of features!
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just for info: am I right that installing beta firmware loses all your settings (including internet connectivity) so you have to restore from a password-protected backup (as it won't recognise the same box) or do you have to re-enter manually? I have a lot of customised settings. Seems a bother for not very much according to the list of features!
No. I always use 'Save Settings' first. The beta upload should not change any of your settings; however, if you have any issues with the beta firmware and want to recover back to the previous release then use of the recovery tool will, as I understand it, clear all your settings which are easily restored provided you have a back up. That said, I have never had a problem uploading any beta firmware.
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Thanks again. Well despite misgivings I jumped in both feet first. It's given about 1Mbps extra on both its reported upload and download attainable speeds, and the ability to specify alternative DNS servers (such as my Open DNS account), as I have had the occasional problem with IDNet's settings (reported on another earlier thread). As far as PTSN and VOIP go, I dunno yet . . . though they're still showing on the UI anyway.
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What is your power consumption % showing? I was showing 32 - 34% and I now have a steady 44%. I think that they have also tweaked the stability settings as, on ADSL2+, I have a slightly lower connection rate with few errors.
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Power gone up from 45% to 55% (equates to 2.2W, I believe, so I'm not bothered), about 12W total. Slightly warmer, and processor use is a bit higher, but of course it's one piece of equipment rather than a dual modem/router. I've also connected a memory stick to add storage, which I suspect accounts for the extra power consumption.
Error count has always been high on my line, I suspect because of the number of repair joints on the underground line between me and the cab (at almost every one of the 50 or so houses!). There doesn't seem to be any logic to it though. Clearly the line is interleaved viz it can attract millions of FECs per day.
The graphing of irrecoverable errors (same as CRC which shows up as 0.2/min at the Cab and 0.5-1/min at the Box?) over the day halved from a max of between 300 or so per hour for usually two hours over the day and a min of up to 20 per hour for most of the rest of the time (not obviously related to use of the connection) when I replaced the 4.5m cable to the NTE socket with a 1.8m one (as part of my efforts to gain CLI). Over the last couple of hours the beta firmware has started off by halving it again. EDIT However that's par for the course as they usually rise over time after a reboot.
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My FB7390 GUI is showing that a firmware update (Beta 21372) is available. My attempt to download it resulted in a message that the update was not for my device. No damage done and the Beta 21362 firmware seems to be working well on my ADSL2+ connection. I think that AVM has tweaked the stability settings. I am getting a slightly lower connection rate at 16.5Mbps but the downstream SNR is static at 6 and until I fiddled with my connection this morning it had been very stable for 9 days with an usually low error rate.
EDIT:
just checked the Aussie FB forums and they seem to be having similar problems with Beta 21372. It would seem that this particular firmware version may not be for the international FB7390 box. This may explain why on clicking for more information in the router GUI - the details were all in German!!
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New Beta Firmware for the Fritz!Box 7390 released today on Fritz! Labs.
Version: 84.05.07-21362
Improved DSL data throughput and interoperability for VDSL
Prioritization for voice data when using FRITZ!App Fon
FRITZ!Box name can be defined for display in the home network, media server, browser call and WLAN SSID
"fritz.box" user interface optimized for access from mobile devices
Guest access can be configured on LAN port 4
Option for entering feedback integrated into each WLAN client
Edit:
Updated without any problems. Connection speed is about 0.6Mbps down on what it was. Power consumption has increased from 34 to 44%. Interface now has a box that allows users to revert back to their previous ADSl engine if connection is not achieved.
Thanks Ardua will stick it on tomorrow
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So what's the settings for using the 7390 on FTTC without the supplied modem?
Just preparing myself in advance :D
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I think they maybe on this page further down.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1690921
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From what I can recall, you need to be running firmware on or after the 06 update, then as long as you have the correct username and login set on the provider page, you also (for a VDSL/FTTC service) need to set the VLAN as 101 and save. Without that setting if you are trying to use the Fritz! as a modem you'll get sync but no connection to your provider's service so wouldn't be able to access any part of the internet.
Everything else on set up was fine, it recognises VDSL straight away. However I waited until the training period was over, as on a longer line at 600m from the cab interleaving set in after 2 weeks, which was the only change. Nonetheless as far as I can see on my (poor) line the Fritz gives up to 5Mbps higher actual download rate than the OpenReach modem. The recent update hasn't changed performance significantly, though SNR now sits at 6 (minimum) and reported CRC errors seem to have decreased, as the cost of a reduction of about 3Mbps in the attainable rate, which was higher than the 40Mbps cap anyway. Upload has suffered by the change (though that may have more to do with the 17a profile 9Mbps>6 with a slight improvement from the latest firmware). Actual speeds can vary a bit, though I think that's due to the odd problem with crosstalk and/or exchange congestion, not IDNet's network or the modem which both seem to always run at full belt.
Latest beta update does allow setting of alternative DNS and bandwidth allowance for monitoring purposes at up to 999999, though happily it seems to run at least 10% ahead of IDNet's figures.
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From what I can recall, you need to be running firmware on or after the 06 update
Running the new Beta now guessing that should be ok
Firmware-Version 84.05.06
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Running the new Beta now guessing that should be ok
Firmware-Version 84.05.06
Should be fine. There are a lot of posts on both the TBB and BT Community Forums about FB7390 settings. Toekneem is your man if you have any issues. The jury seems to be out as to whether it is advisable to switch to FB7390 VDSL mode within the first 10 days of service. My FTTC box is in place (with power), I am just waiting for BT to finish off the wiring.
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From what I can recall, you need to be running firmware on or after the 06 update, then as long as you have the correct username and login set on the provider page, you also (for a VDSL/FTTC service) need to set the VLAN as 101 and save. Without that setting if you are trying to use the Fritz! as a modem you'll get sync but no connection to your provider's service so wouldn't be able to access any part of the internet.
Everything else on set up was fine, it recognises VDSL straight away. However I waited until the training period was over, as on a longer line at 600m from the cab interleaving set in after 2 weeks, which was the only change. Nonetheless as far as I can see on my (poor) line the Fritz gives up to 5Mbps higher actual download rate than the OpenReach modem. The recent update hasn't changed performance significantly, though SNR now sits at 6 (minimum) and reported CRC errors seem to have decreased, as the cost of a reduction of about 3Mbps in the attainable rate, which was higher than the 40Mbps cap anyway. Upload has suffered by the change (though that may have more to do with the 17a profile 9Mbps>6 with a slight improvement from the latest firmware). Actual speeds can vary a bit, though I think that's due to the odd problem with crosstalk and/or exchange congestion, not IDNet's network or the modem which both seem to always run at full belt.
Latest beta update does allow setting of alternative DNS and bandwidth allowance for monitoring purposes at up to 999999, though happily it seems to run at least 10% ahead of IDNet's figures.
Further confirmation if needed that AVM has tweaked the downstream target SNR. My ADSL2+ connection now sits solidly on 6 downstream whereas before I could often see 2 in the GUI.
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Running the new Beta now guessing that should be ok
Firmware-Version 84.05.06
That version is fine (or anything later), if you check at Internet/Account Information/Connection Settings (in Expert Mode) you'll see the tick box and place to enter VLAN number 101 but not before you use it as a VDSL modem on FTTC! And remember if you use it temporarily with the OpenReach modem to allow the VDSL to settle, you need to activate LAN1 in the Connection Settings for the Internet Connection i.e. the OR modem acts as a cable modem, and the other end of the modem output cable goes into LAN1 (not of course required if you connect the Fritz direct as a modem when the setting needs to be changed back, or left as, Internet Connection via DSL with the supplied Y-cable). If you temporarily use the OR modem the Y cable can still be part used just for the analogue phone connection temporarily.
Unless you use a direct ethernet link to a single PC for the install or have another cable (not ADSL) router the above information will be important for the OpenReach engineer to check your connection with the supplied modem, which he/she may want/need to install. (Mine didn't bother though and just left me with the modem connected). If you're interested ask the engineer (I forgot) your connection rate as measured on his equipment which you can then check against the router. Usually it seems higher than the estimate, and will reduce once settled in though mine then increased again.
I seem to recall the sequence on the install date was:
1. Engineer installed OR modem (and changed faceplate - not always necessary), would also install extension data cable for modem if ordered.
2. Engineer went to cab to activate connection, about 10-15 minutes
3. He suggested whilst he was gone I set up the cable router.
All you need now is BT to activate the Cab for customer connections, mine was a couple of weeks late last summer (though BT was less active then so delays probably less) a couple of months after the electricity was connected. Can be later if ducting needs repair. I was lucky getting from order to install in the minimum one week.
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Further confirmation if needed that AVM has tweaked the downstream target SNR. My ADSL2+ connection now sits solidly on 6 downstream whereas before I could often see 2 in the GUI.
I've never used the Fritz! as an ADSL modem except to download the initial firmware update. But on VDSL the spectrum graph shows the quoted download margin to be the absolute lowest of that achieved over the whole of the download spectrum range, and the average is much higher. (Of course the spectrum range in use determines theoretical (attainable, on the Fritz!) speed, which is why VDSL is capable of greater speeds than ADSL, but also limits my speeds because of line quality making the highest frequencies above 8.5MHz unattainable).
From what I gather the downstream margin on ADSL can settle at 3 or less; but on the Fritz!Box (I don't know about other equipment) for VDSL connections should never be less than 6 and is recommended to be a bit higher (mine was usually 7 or 8 until the beta firmware). I'm hoping the link therefore stays up, it only re-synced when I changed settings on SNR = 7 for the first month of use.
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Oops sorry Fritz!Box users: you'll make neither heads nor tails of my posts unless you switch to Advanced View on Settings/Expert Mode in the GUI.
:evil: I always go straight to the detail out of habit, and throw away the manuals. It makes life so much more interesting.
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Oops sorry Fritz!Box users: you'll make neither heads nor tails of my posts unless you switch to Advanced View on Settings/Expert Mode in the GUI.
:evil: I always go straight to the detail out of habit, and throw away the manuals. It makes life so much more interesting.
Mine's always set on advanced
The only worry I have is that my router is on an extension upstairs in my study, the main phone socket is down in the hall and it's one of the old variety not a filtered
So I'm wondering is the engineer going to want to install the modem on the main socket or can it be where I want it? Does it have to have a new cable?
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There was lots of discussions about this on the TBB forums. The engineer will replace the faceplate, no probs. When ordering you can ask for a data extension cable (included within the install charge) which will allow the engineer to put your router where you want away from the modem. What I suspect what you really want though (to use the Fritz!, and if you don't need to use the existing master) is for the extension to be made the master, so ask! Might depend on a co-operative engineer on install and the quality of the existing wiring though - and possibly be a loss of speed. Certainly I have no loss of speed using a 30m (100 foot) Cat5e ethernet cable from the Fritz! at the downstairs master to the PC in a garden cabin "study", a fiver on Amazon. Only trouble is what you do with the trailing cables which annoy a lot of people.
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The existing extension cable runs underneath the floor in a loft conversion so no chance of replacing that, all the boards screwed down with laminate over the top. If he has to put the modem where the existing main socket is, I would have to get another mains pass through 500mbps homeplug. How do you change the extension to the master?
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Others may know more than I, but Google comes up with the following on other forums:
"Slightly more on-topic, I did some digging around yesterday and found that BT really can and will replace an existing extension socket with a new master, provided that the extension socket is directly wired to the original master. So if you have a long chain of extensions they can only swap with the first one. If you have several extensions directly wired to the original master socket then they will replace any one of them. The source for this was comments by BT engineers on one of their public forums."
The bit in bold seems to be the determining factor. May be CS can add this as a note to the order at the appropriate time, or you are at the mercy of the install engineer, so make life as comfortable for them as possible: tea, biccies, a poliite request and easy access!!
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Others may know more than I, but Google comes up with the following on other forums:
"Slightly more on-topic, I did some digging around yesterday and found that BT really can and will replace an existing extension socket with a new master, provided that the extension socket is directly wired to the original master. So if you have a long chain of extensions they can only swap with the first one. If you have several extensions directly wired to the original master socket then they will replace any one of them. The source for this was comments by BT engineers on one of their public forums."
The bit in bold seems to be the determining factor. May be CS can add this as a note to the order at the appropriate time, or you are at the mercy of the install engineer, so make life as comfortable for them as possible: tea, biccies, a poliite request and easy access!!
I only have one extension, so I can only assume it's directly wired to the current master
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Apparently I'm going to be getting FTTP, so do you guys know if the 7390 can be used as a standalone modem/router on this?
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It needs to have a WAN ethernet port. i.e. works as a router only.
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Apparently I'm going to be getting FTTP, so do you guys know if the 7390 can be used as a standalone modem/router on this?
Post the question on the Fritz Overseas thread at Whirlpool.net.au - Phillippe will know!
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Page 45 of the manual available on the german site describes a connection to a cable modem utilising PPPOE via LAN1 which should be fine for FTTP/C.
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Lucky you getting FTTP. You don't need to supply your own modem I think, so use the same router connection via LAN1 as you do on ADSL.
EDIT I'm fairly sure you can't use the Fritz as a modem for FTTP, not least because BT provide a new fibre connection to your house with a different termination point, not using the existing copper wiring. In any event there'd be no point as you get the full and fixed speed. On FTTC it still uses the existing copper line to be cabinet, and your existing termination point usually with just a replacement faceplate, so speeds do vary as with ADSL and different modems can perform better. (I have a similar issue on my fixed wireless service, which as with FTTP uses a different - non-DSL line - modem, and when I try to use the Fritz instead of the supplied modem it can't obtain any signal). The fibre link carries just data and not your analogue telephone service.
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The BT termination for FTTP is an optical fibre modem I believe it may be the Huawei HG851
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I stand to be corrected as I'm usually wrong on the technical stuff, but I think they key point is that ADSL and VDSL are both affected by the copper line conditions (noise) so the modem needs to negotiate a line speed with the exchange hence all the stuff about attenuation and noise margins. Fibre to the Premises isn't - line speed is always the maximum so no "negotiation" is required, just the router's authentication with the Provider. (Same with Fixed Wireless, though it is affected by distance unlike fibre).
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Precisely, the optical fibre modem with FTTP just converts the optical signal to an electrical signal
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One day, motherboards will have this built in and we'll be using optical routers... :)
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Publish you prediction ;)
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:music: After I've gone, and left you crying :music: ;D
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Taken from the AVM.de website re the 7390:
FRITZ!Box 7390 – for fast Internet connections up to 100 Mbit/s
The FRITZ!Box from AVM makes it possible to achieve broadband connections of up to 100 megabits per second depending on the ADSL or VDSL network. This makes it ideally suited for resource-hungry broadband applications such as video streaming or IPTV. The FRITZ!Box is guaranteed to be compatible with all ADSL and VDSL variants. It supports VDSL2 (all profiles from 8 to 30) and all additional variants with ADSL2+ (annex A/B/J/M). The device can also be easily used in fiber-optic cable networks, such as FTTB (Fiber To The Basement) or FTTH (Fiber To The Home). For the first time, the new FRITZ!Box 7390 enables WLAN N connections simultaneously in the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz band. The 5 GHz band proves to be particularly beneficial in situations where there are a number of overlapping wireless networks. The simultaneous application of both wireless bands also makes it possible, for example, to use equipment that can only transmit via one of the two bands.
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Thanks all(even the ones where I didn't have a clue as to what was being said) and Ardua
Just dug this up myself
Integrated DSL modem supports ADSL (8 Mbit/s), ADSL2+ (24 Mbit/s), and VDSL2 (100 Mbit/s)
So by my reckoning I can ditch their modem and silly homehub :thumb:
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Re: The device can also be easily used in fiber-optic cable networks, such as FTTB (Fiber To The Basement) or FTTH (Fiber To The Home)
Yes, no-one denies it can be used as a router on FTTP or Virgin cable for that matter. But where do AVM say it functions as a fibre (or fiber) optic modem? They say it has an ADSL/VDSL modem. And does it have the latest version of the Ikanos VX180 chipset which can handle speeds in excess of 100Mbps which FTTP might provide in the future (though a bit academic now)?
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Maybe it won't be replacing the modem then
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I refer to my earlier post - ask Phillippe.
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I refer to my earlier post - ask Phillippe.
It means regging on another forum Ardua :no:
@mervl, apparently they do have the Ikanos VX180 chipset
http://www.ikanos.com/news/press-releases/2010/AVM-Selects-Ikanos-Communications-Processors-for-Next-Generation-Multimedia-Home-Gateways-1313/
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I refer to my earlier post - ask Phillippe.
Would that be the French guy who always wears sandals, Phillippe Philoppe? :)x :out:
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:argh: :rofl: :grn: :karmic:
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:ithank:
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Would that be the French guy who always wears sandals, Phillippe Philoppe? :)x :out:
I bet you've been waiting for years to use that gag on here!
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:hehe:
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You lot don't appear to be taking my questions seriously :laugh:
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It means regging on another forum Ardua :no:
I wasn't aware that registering on 2 forums was deemed to be bad form. The Internode forum on Whirlpool is a font of FB7390 knowledge which is not readily available in the UK. Phillippe is a frequent and extremely knowledgeable contributor and he will happily provide advice on the 7390 to non-Aussies on the overseas forum. He also has an exceptionally good grasp of the English language - better than Google's attempts at translating German FB forums.
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I wasn't aware that registering on 2 forums was deemed to be bad form. The Internode forum on Whirlpool is a font of FB7390 knowledge which is not readily available in the UK. Phillippe is a frequent and extremely knowledgeable contributor and he will happily provide advice on the 7390 to non-Aussies on the overseas forum. He also has an exceptionally good grasp of the English language - better than Google's attempts at translating German FB forums.
It's just a mess there
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Thanks all(even the ones where I didn't have a clue as to what was being said) and Ardua
Just dug this up myself
So by my reckoning I can ditch their modem and silly homehub :thumb:
You can but make sure you restore it and test if you experience any issues as its possible the BT engineer will take one look, decide its your equipment and walk off but raise a charge.
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You can but make sure you restore it and test if you experience any issues as its possible the BT engineer will take one look, decide its your equipment and walk off but raise a charge.
According to AVM it won't replace both, just the HH unfortunately
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It is technically possible to get a VDSL modem router if your Japanese is up to scratch.
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According to AVM it won't replace both, just the HH unfortunately
This accords with some advice that I was reading yesterday. Deutsche Telecom, it would seem, is in the process of rolling out FTTH in some German cities and they are saying to their customers that they will have to move from a DSL modem router to a broadband router with an Ethernet WAN (Internet) port.
The article goes on to say that some high-end modem routers will have a dual-WAN setup which uses an Ethernet port as a secondary WAN port and this may be in the form of a LAN port that can become a WAN port or as a dedicated WAN port.
Finally, I should add that the new beta firmware seems to be a marked improvement on the old firmware. My ADSL2+ connection has now been stable for 13 days with an unusually low error rate. I have left the downstream SNR slider in the mid position which is giving me a target SNR of 5/6 and a downstream connection rate of 16.6Mbps. The WMMAL exchange has gone unusually quiet on the FTTC front. After a flurry of activity just before Christmas, the town is covered with lots of new FTTC cabinets which all seem to have a power supply to them (but not connected), and links fitted, but no sadly fibre installation teams in sight!!
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The high end ones will likely be for corporate installs so that independent WAN connections can be used for resilience.
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It is technically possible to get a VDSL modem router if your Japanese is up to scratch.
Don't think we had better go there pctech
@Ardua, No disconnections in six days, Intended signal-to-noise ratio slider set in the middle, sync'd at 7.0. Think that's my record#
SNR at a stable 6, which drops to 5 between 20.00 and 03.00
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New Beta available on the website, allows the setting of your own DNS servers, bout time too I say
Services at a Glance
Improved DSL data throughput and interoperability for VDSL
Prioritization for voice data when using FRITZ!App Fon
FRITZ!Box name can be defined for display in the home network, media server, browser call and WLAN SSID
"fritz.box" user interface optimized for access from mobile devices
Guest access can be configured on LAN port 4
Option for entering feedback integrated into each WLAN client
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New Beta available on the website, allows the setting of your own DNS servers, bout time too I say
Services at a Glance
Improved DSL data throughput and interoperability for VDSL
Prioritization for voice data when using FRITZ!App Fon
FRITZ!Box name can be defined for display in the home network, media server, browser call and WLAN SSID
"fritz.box" user interface optimized for access from mobile devices
Guest access can be configured on LAN port 4
Option for entering feedback integrated into each WLAN client
The latest beta that I can find was released in December. I have had no disconnections in the past 38 days.
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I'm behind the times
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I'm behind the times
You had me searching for a while :laugh: According to those in the know 'Down Under', the next formal firmware release is not that far away. I have also had 2 recent updates to my Fons which is a good indicator that a FB update is about to hit the streets.
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You had me searching for a while :laugh: According to those in the know 'Down Under', the next formal firmware release is not that far away. I have also had 2 recent updates to my Fons which is a good indicator that a FB update is about to hit the streets.
Apologies, but if you had posted the new update here as per normal we wouldn't have got our wires crossed. All your own fault really :laugh:
Fon had an update yesterday, just the one though
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Apologies, but if you had posted the new update here as per normal we wouldn't have got our wires crossed. All your own fault really :laugh:
Fon had an update yesterday, just the one though
I often use 'advancing years' as an excuse; however, on this occasion ......... Have a look at my Reply 17 dated 22 December (Beta Firmware 21362 which according to Fritz! Labs is still current). Glad that the confusion is now resolved ;D
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I often use 'advancing years' as an excuse; however, on this occasion ......... Have a look at my Reply 17 dated 22 December (Beta Firmware 21362 which according to Fritz! Labs is still current). Glad that the confusion is now resolved ;D
Yep I did notice that..........................................................yesterday
Errr advancing years anyone
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Beta Firmware 21362
No disconnections now for 10 days, a new World Record, well, for me anyway.
It's getting better and better with each firmware update
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Where do you download the beta firmware from?
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Where do you download the beta firmware from?
Google Fritz!Labs and click on the 7390 on the bottom LHS. You should back up your firmware and download the recovery file just in case: that said, I have not had any problems to date with betas. My connection has remained stable now for 42 days with this beta: I suspect that they have tweaked the SNR settings. There is a newer beta version on the Aussie site and there are 3rd party links to it on the whirlpool forums. I intend to wait until Fritz!Labs is next updated or a newer firmware version is released.
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Where do you download the beta firmware from?
Have you got one Glenn?
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I have one on order from the chap Greyshadow mentioned in the other thread, it will be going on my FTTC line.
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I have one on order from the chap Greyshadow mentioned in the other thread, it will be going on my FTTC line.
Glad you have one on order. just remember , I think he is a one man band and sometimes he is a bit slow on the messaging.
I have given him a polite rollicking before now about his lack of keeping his customers informed of the order progress..
I have mine set up with one of the Fritz!fon MT-F phones registered to the base station and 1 older analogue phone plugged into FON 1.
One thing to be aware of is if you put the Beta firmware on you lose all the help info in the web gui , so maybe an idea to put the last Official release ( 84.05.06 ) on for a few days get yourself set up before you put the beta on.
For me caller ID is showing , but some users are still having problems.
This might help sorting out any little problems you might encounter:
http://service.avm.de/support/en/SKB/FRITZ-Box-7390-int
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I see from the AVM website that they will be releasing a new FB VDSL router at CEBIT next month.
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I see from the AVM website that they will be releasing a new FB VDSL router at CEBIT next month.
Is that the LTE one, (4g).
[edit] No its not :
Two new FRITZ!Box models for DSL with more bandwidth and WLAN possibilities
AVM is delivering yet more bandwidth and WLAN possibilities thanks to two new FRITZ!Box models for DSL connections, which will be unveiled at CeBIT.
While one is ideal for anyone just starting to use VDSL and meets all your communication requirements, the other is ideal for surfing the Internet at breakneck speed and lightning-fast home networking thanks to improved WLAN throughput and range.
They are also doing a cloud service. myFRITZ. Suposed to be Germany only for the time being.
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I have one on order from the chap Greyshadow mentioned in the other thread, it will be going on my FTTC line.
Glenn, I'd be interested (if you've an unlocked modem currently, especially) in comparison line stats between the OR modem and the Fritz!Box 7390 used as a modem, if you do so. There seems to me a lack of VDSL comparison information for the Fritz! in the UK, which would be especially useful for those of us with less optimum lines that struggle to achieve the full 40/10Meg. I have a suspicion from my limited information that it has achieved a margin of up to 5Mbps over the supplied modem both initially on the 8c profile and now on 17a, in my case, and brought forth a rise in the download profile accordingly.
I expected newer models to be announced from AVM since their chipset manufacturer Ikanos introduced their faster 300Mbps chipset a year or so ago though, of course, cost and the infrastructure limitations also affect the speeds actually available to consumers! From my experience the wireless performance currently isn't great compared to other routers - although using dual 2Gz/5Gz spectrum I can get a reported 108Mbps link (and higher) at up to 10m with their Fritz!Stick throughputs are no better than any other wireless router so I'd expect them to try and improve this, if they want to claim a premium product.
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Mervl, I haven't got an unlocked modem, but I have been offered the use of one, so could possibly compare the results.
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No probs Glenn. Just a comparison on the BT Speedtester say after its settled down for a week or so would be good enough. My experience is complicated by the first use of the Fritz! and the 17a/998 profile move occurring at the same time by bad luck or bad judgement, take your pick.
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Beta Firmware Version 84.05.09-21821 has just been released by AVM for the Fritz!Box 7390.
http://www.avm.de
FRITZ! Lab - New Features and Improvements
New with version 84.05.09-21821:
DECT: all 17 characters of the FRITZ!Box name are displayed
DECT: connectivity improvements for handsets in babyfone mode
DECT: FRITZ!Fon display improvement for fetching E-Mails and RSS-feeds with the messages-key
DECT: FRITZ!Fon display improvement for call waiting indication with active telephone line
DECT: filter for call numbers for international numbers
DSL: DSL event log added to push-mail
DSL: corrected PowerLED behaviour during UTMS fallback operation
WLAN: changes in system events for internet over wireless lan
WLAN: wireless LAN activation / deactivation now availible while internet over wireless LAN is active
WLAN: Fix for some WDS channel settings in WDS 2,4 GHZ mode that could not be changed.
WLAN: improvements for the manual channel setting
WLAN: improvements for wireless lan communication
WLAN: improvements of the display of WMM-properties
WLAN: intermittent limiting to 130 Mbit/s in WDS mode fixed
WLAN: improved WDS longtime stability with client-roaming
WLAN: improvements of the reliability of the wireless lan module with more than 30 devices in MAC adress filter
Telephony: Enhanced Google phone book support (amount of numbers no longer restricted, type changeable, update button added)
Telephony: import of google contacs restricted to entries with call numbers
Telephony: adding of call numbers to telephone books with many entries improved
Telephony: improved display of the answering machine
Telephony: fix for answering machine message deletion after disabling usb-storage
Telephony: display of "Umlaute" for IP-telefones corrected
Telephony: flexible amount of call numbers and changeble number types for online telephone books (i.e. Google Contacs)
Telephony: Setup of online telephone books improved (i.e. Google Contacts)
Telephony: Support for longer names and call numbers in telephone books
Telephony: fixed memory leak
Telephony: fixed problems with "Umlaute" and special characters in telefone books with google contacts
Internet: fixed online meter for internet via lan1
Internet: improved internet account configuration page
Internet: added various internet providers for various countries
Internet: 24-hour disconnect can be deactivated again
Internet: Online Monitor shows currently used DNS servers
Internet: NEW - use an existing internet connection via Wireless lan
Internet: (child protection) restricted clients can be changed to unrestriced
Internet: improved display of custom DNS v4 servers
Internet: Show name of configured internet-service provider on the startpage
Internet: improved parallel use of telephony and internet-download
Internet: new settings for exposed host and ping6 in the IPv6 permissions
Internet: new settings for coexistence with other IPv6 routers in your network
Internet: removed repeating drops with activated IPv6 filters
Internet: automatic Wake on LAN for IPv4 and IPv6
Internet: removed repeating multicast-drops on clients that are restricted by child protection
Internet: closed a possible exploit of the child-protection using an unrestriced IP adress
Internet: improved stability in ATA mode
Mediaserver: sort folder view by filename
Mediaserver: sort album view by ID3-track number
Mediaserver: sort general view by ID3-title
Mediaserver: improved interoperability with Sony TVs
MyFRITZ!: added new service "MyFRITZ!" as a possiblity to access your FRITZ!Box from abroad (currently only available in german)
Home Network: ethernet-devices connected to a repeater are no longer listed as wireless devices
Home Network: improved display of FRITZ!WLAN repeater ip-address
Home Network: improved display of FRITZ!Powerline linkrate
Home Network: added message when changing the FRITZ!Box name
Home Network: removed double or wrong entried in Network device list
System: New - Name of FRITZ!Box and FRITZ!OS version on the start-page
System: used DynDNS-server listed on startpage
System: improved stability
System: fixed problems with Chrome-plugin AdBlock
System: no autofilling of passwords
System: removed possible crash when receiving fax
System: improved push-mail content
System: fixed problem that could lead to no voice data on IP-phones
System: fixed possible crash when sending push-mail
System: New - push-mail now contains DSL information
System: added push-mail for IP- and WDS-Clients
System: new event log entry for calls using mobile/GSM
System: better date/time display in event log
System: wireless devices no longer shown as inactive while they are connected
System: improved stability during firmware update
System: added configurable push-mail for missed calls and IP address changes
System: alphabetic sorting of DynDNS providers
System: removed crash when using two FRITZ!Boxes in LAN and wireless mode at the same time
Storage/NAS: New - change name of workgroup
Storage/NAS: online-storage box.net now using https
Storage/NAS: optimised caching with online-storage
Storage/NAS: updated content of internal storage (factory reset required)
Storage/NAS: fixed access rights of internal storage
USB: improvied read-performance of FAT-partitions
UMTS: Voice-transmission for Huawei K3765
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Thanks. I may be skip this one as the previous beta has resulted in a stable connection now for 57 days. Let us know how you get on. I gather from the Aussie forums that AVM hasn't resolved the phantom call issue.
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That's a long list of updates and changes!
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OK - I gave in and I have installed the new beta. No problems whatsoever updating. My reconnection was at 16.9Mbps (up 0.5) with a downstream SNR of 5. This box seems to prefer 5 to 3! IPv4 and 6 are working fine. It will be interesting to see whether the box now disconnects and reconnects to IPv6 every few days as was the case with the old beta.
With 3 updates to the Fritz!Box Fon firmware and 2 betas for the the FB7390 in the past couple of months, I assume that a FB7390 firmware RC cannot be too far away.
Out of interest could anybody post or PM me the FB7390 settings for FTTC. I see in another place that there is an ongoing discussion about whether VDSL is Annex A or B. Thanks
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Out of interest could anybody post or PM me the FB7390 settings for FTTC. I see in another place that there is an ongoing discussion about whether VDSL is Annex A or B. Thanks
Found the answer that I was seeking in the new Mom'ILC FB forum. Jury still seems to be out on whether BT Infinity is Annex A or B. The FB7390 seems to work with either setting on FTTC.
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Found the answer that I was seeking in the new Mom'ILC FB forum. Jury still seems to be out on whether BT Infinity is Annex A or B. The FB7390 seems to work with either setting on FTTC.
I've been using Annex a from day 1 and it's been pretty stable..... Might try annex B in a couple of days just to see if there is any difference
As regards the settings for FTTC, you can set up using the wizard, but need to go to Expert Mode(adavanced settings) to be able to set the Vlan to 101 , otherwise it will fail at a PPPOe stage.
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Hopefully Mohamed has sent my box today :fingers:
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I thought BT VDSL was annex B - that's what the hacked HG 612 seems to report. :dunno:
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4099641-re-how-to-get-a-fritzbox-7390-working-as-a-vdsl-modem.html
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Twenty Four hours on and this new beta release seems to be very stable with a very low ADSL2+ error rate. :fingers: The update also seems to have solved a problem with the GUI. Since setting up my router to receive IPv6 (on a Mac), I found that changing a settings page on the GUI could result in the GUI logging out as the page refreshed. My uniformed guess was that this was due to the way that the Mac OS selects the fastest data stream irrespective of whether its is v4 or v6. Whatever - it seems that AVM have resolved this issue.
PS If you are new to the FB, you use a Mac and you are thinking about updating the firmware then remember that the recovery tool is not Mac OSX compatible. According to those that know about these things the recovery tool needs to be run from a Windows PC or a MAC running Windows on Boot Camp or a 3rd party emulator. That said, I have never had a problem updating this box using a downloaded file or via the GUI updater.
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I thought BT VDSL was annex B - that's what the hacked HG 612 seems to report. :dunno:
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4099641-re-how-to-get-a-fritzbox-7390-working-as-a-vdsl-modem.html
Just switched over to annex B today , been connected since 03/03/2012 at 12:19 seems okay at the moment, slightly fewer errors, but far to early to judge yet.
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This new technology is confusing, I'd been trying to understand how if Annex A is incompatible with UK BT VDSL that the Fritz!box actually works as an FTTC modem utilising Annex A. However since I posted the first link to TBB the thread has moved on. We now discover we have what seems Annex B plan A and Plan B which perhaps explains things, I'm still confused as to which is the correct one for the Fritz!Box assuming all FTTC is now on VDSL Profile 17a
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4099949-how-to-get-a-fritzbox-7390-working-as-a-vdsl-modem.html
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I wonder on further reflection Steve if Annex A/B on the Fritz! only refer to ASDL settings NOT VDSL. Don't forget that unlike the HG612 the Fritz! has both ADSL and VDSL compatiblility. In my experience either setting makes no material difference on VDSL (FTTC). (What information there is suggests that Annex B is for countries with ISDN lines - which makes me think that it's NOT a VDSL setting. The trouble is that saying Annex A or B, without identifying which DSL standard you are referring to is meaningless. Add ITU-T G.992.3 Annex B Band A and Band B into the mix (to give its full title for VDSL, and also known as Bands 998 and 997 respectively) and its even more confusing!)
It's part of the joy of using a "different" modem. AVM aren't very forthcoming with information, and the Fritz! isn't designed for customisation by those who like to fiddle. If it works why worry? On a poor line (Annex A) and 40/10 service the BT Speedtester gives me a consistent 38/38.71 IP profile and maximum download throughput which means I'm not complaining - better than I believe some of you get on the 80/20 service with much better lines! I can't wait until users start paying the premium - I hope for BT's sake they get it sorted!
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I agree if it works why worry, and I guess things will become clearer as the user base on VDSL expands,with regard the 80/20 service I think it's pushing the boundaries of what certain individual lines can cope with, we've seen it with adsl2+ where interference and high error rates made some longer lines unusable without the imposition of a max sync limit or a reprofile back to adslmax.
Hopefully at the end of the trial we may have some indication of which connections will benefit from 80/20, sadly the individual may not have the data to make that decision as the supplied HG612 is as we know locked to the end user. A minor point for the fiddlers, the HG612 which utilises the Broadcom 6368 is compatible with adsl variants but not in the state supplied by Openreach. ;)
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Reading page 3 (Annexes) of the following attachment would suggest to me that Annex A should be used within the UK. The issue seems to be more related to VDSL's relationship with our POTS (plain old telephone service) rather than how much users can squeeze out of their connection. Happy to be told that I am wrong. :slap:
http://www.suomicom.fi/VDLS2_vs_ADSL2_vertailua.pdf (http://www.suomicom.fi/VDLS2_vs_ADSL2_vertailua.pdf)
Fixed the link - Glenn
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That's my current thought from the evolving thread on TBB but I think the confusion lies around the use or misuse of the terminology.
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Fritz Fon was updated to 01.02.73 Friday
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Fritz Fon was updated to 01.02.73 Friday
My 2 Fritz!Fons MTFs are now showing 01.02.74 as of Saturday. ???
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My 2 Fritz!Fons MTFs are now showing 01.02.74 as of Saturday. ???
Thanks Ardua, just done an update check, now .74
You know me, always behind the times
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Just out of curiosity has anyone noticed a new hourly "something" after installing the latest 84-05-09 beta firmware showing as a a slight latencv spike on a TBBQM monitor see:My Broadband Ping (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/59916f9c497a49f719f05ace2ff09646-04-03-2012.html) and have an idea what it might be? My only suggestion is perhaps the router is busy with an hourly stats collection for the new "line quality monitor" for the daily report e-mail if you have it operational. (I haven't worked the bit of the resulting graph showing actual throughputs out yet though, it appears to be some sort of "average"). Ignore the other spikes though, they are me downloading.
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MyFritz! does work. With the help of Google translator, the set up is pretty easy. Whether there is any advantage in having MyFritz! set up, only time will tell.
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I set up My Fritz quite easily using my pigeon German, as it allows you remote access to selected router data from any remote internet-enabled device, the most useful of which seems to be the calls list.
With regard to VDSL2 throughput speeds (apart from congestion) I suspect the most important are cab distance, and also that BT do restrict power levels from the exchange to further away cabs, presumably to restrict interference with degraded ADSL lines on the same local loop. Trouble is that unless you hack (whether FB or OR modem) and know what the expected power level is, you have no idea. I made a suggestion to AVM that estimated distance from cab and power levels as well as upstream attenuation (all of which I understand are available via telnet access, which they state makes the modem "unsupported" - not sure what that means in practice) should be shown on VDSL details/stats pages of the UI but I'm not sure that they take any real notice of such feedback.
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My online meter's not working as it should either
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My online meter's not working as it should either
I've always found the FB meter runs about 10% ahead of IDNet's recorded usage, which at least is the helpful way round. The apparent latest beta firmware improvement in the the usage recording through a LAN1 connection hasn't made any noticeable difference for me.
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A 'minor' firmware update v. 84.05.20 has been released for the Fritz!Box 7390:
EDIT: I have just checked and the update is not yet downloadable from the Firmware Update in the FB - nor can it be downloaded from Fritz AVM. Our cousins 'down under' seem to have access via a FTP link.
EDIT 2: Downloaded from ftp://ftp.avm.de/fritz.box/fritzbox.fon_wlan_7390/firmware/english/
New with version 84.05.20:
DSL: New DSL-version with improvements for ADSL2+ and VDSL lines
DSL: improved VDSL-interoperability and performance
DSL: optimised display of DSL data-rate on annex J lines
DSL: improved interop for Globespan cabinet mode lines
DSL: improved interop for various lines by deactivating PTM
Internet: New- use MyFRITZ! to safely access your FRITZ!Box from abroad
Internet: New- use WLAN instead of DSL or LAN to connect to the Internet
Internet: New- optional possibility to manually configure DNS server
Internet: New- UMTS-fall-back in case of a problem with the Internet connection over DSL
Internet: New- display of line speed for Internet access via LAN added in the online-monitor
Internet: New- configurability of Exposed host and ping6 in the IPv6 settings
Internet: New- configurability of other IPv6-routers in your home-network
Internet: New- IPv6-support for UPnP, UPnP-AV and TR-064
Internet: New- DynDNS-support for IPv6 with dyndns.org and namemaster.de
Internet: New- possibility to deactivate NetBIOS-filter
Internet: redesign of internet-account information pages
Internet: completed support for DNSSEC
Internet: improved error handling with DynDNS refresh
Internet: Internet-page loading accelerated with active child-protection
WLAN: New- integrated possibility to send feedback per WLAN-device
WLAN: New- active MAC-filter now automatically deactivated during WPS pairing
WLAN: New WLAN module
WLAN: WLAN-start and changes in the configuration accelerated
WLAN: improved interoperability with Logitech Squeezebox Radio
WLAN: Mouse over display of WLAN device name and IP-address in the system log
WLAN: reduced WLAN events with WPS for Windows7 and Windows Vista clients
WLAN: display of WDS-devices improved
WLAN: display of link-speed added for connections to Apple MacBook
WLAN: added configurability for WLAN connects and disconnects messages in the syslog
WLAN: added "new WLAN device first connect" message in the syslog
WLAN: additional syslog entry in case the 5Ghz channel is used by systems with priority (radar)
WLAN: to improve Windows-compatibility space at the beginning or end of a WLAN key are filtered
Telephony: New- Prioritise phone calls in your WLAN with FRITZ!App Fon
Telephony: Menu option "Own Telephone Numbers" combines internet- and fixed-line numbers with a status overview
Telephony: display-name now also configurable for remotely managed Voip-accounts
Telephony: transmit the number of messages on the answering machine to IP-telephones (MWI)
Telephony: display-name of the own number now possible to transmit to IP-telephones
Telephony: simplified email-setup for fax-reception
Telephony: improved the behaviour for the sip-registration with alternative providers
Telephony: added IMS-support for "implicit registration"
Telephony: fixed a possible problem when taking over a call from the answering machine
Telephony: improved import of telephone book
Telephony: improved signalling on analogue extensions in some scenarios
Telephony: improved caller line detection for some analogue lines
Telephony: improved Internet telephony setup
Telephony: stability improvements
DECT/FRITZ!Fon: New- configurable background image with date/time
DECT/FRITZ!Fon: New- new start screen for FRITZ!Fon MT-F
DECT/FRITZ!Fon: New- display incoming calls with bigger font
DECT/FRITZ!Fon: New- new midi-ringtones
DECT/FRITZ!Fon: fixed sporadic loss of connection to DECT-base
DECT/FRITZ!Fon: improved interop with other DECT phones
DECT/FRITZ!Fon: corrected text display in podcasts
DECT/FRITZ!Fon: accelerated menu speed for podcasts and internet-radio
DECT/FRITZ!Fon: improved error handling in case of missing pictures
Homenetwork: New- Change your FRITZ!Box name: for WLAN SSID, SMB, DECT and more
Homenetwork: New- Internet access for guests connected to LAN4
Homenetwork: New- improved display of guest-devices in the network-overview
Homenetwork: New- network devices with an http interface can now be clicked in the networking-overview
Homenetwork: New- automatic wake on LAN for devices reachable from the internet (including IPv6)
Homenetwork: New- display of FRITZ!Powerline-devices in the network-overview
Homenetwork: New- details of network devices now shows extended information including IPv6 addresses
System: New - smartphone optimised web-pages for fritz.box and myfritz.box
System: New - name of FRITZ!Box and FRITZ!OS displayed on main-page
System: New - setup simplified (new passwords will now be initially shown in plain text at configuration)
System: New - simplified change between normal and expert view
System: New - push mail now contains more detailed DSL information
System: New - push-mail now displays current IP-address and missed phone calls
System: New - possibility to activated automated sending feedback in case of a crash
System: New - automatically synchronise WLAN night-settings between multiple FRITZ! products
System: improved stability
System: added POP3 SLL support for web.de
System: DNS-server of FRITZ!Box enhanced (DNS over TCP)
System: corrected loss of APIPA-address 169.254.1.1
System: DOS-robustness of https-access towards the thc-ssl-dos-tool improved
System: fixed problems of displaying username and SMTP server in the push mail service
System: fixed possible problem with using IP-cameras with real time streaming-protocol
USB: multifunction printers now only need the activation of "printer" device type with USB remote connection
USB: Interop with EnOcean USB device improved
USB: improved write performance for USB memory
USB: improved stability when disconnecting USB memory
Memory/NAS: New- name of workgroup changeable
Memory/NAS: accelerated scanning of memory for internet-sharing
Memory/NAS: accelerated FTP connection for LAN-access to USB memory
Memory/NAS: improved handling of USB memory disconnects while scanning media-files
Memory/NAS: improved picture handling and search with Internet explorer 9
Mediaserver: New- playlist support added
Mediaserver: improved interop (Sony TV, Kathrein-receiver, Xbox360 ...)
Mediaserver: performance-improvements
Mediaserver: improved handling of Umlauts in MP3-Album covers and jpg files
UMTS: added support for some UMTS devices with CSV function
UMTS: added support for new UMTS devices (ZTE K4505-Z, Sierra USB 309, 4G Systems XS Stick P14)
Important details regarding this update:
[1] Automatic priorisation of Voice data using FRITZ!App phone requires at least version 1.6.0 for iOS and 1.56 for Android.
[2] Automatic synchronisation of the WLAN-night-settings will require an upcoming update of the FRITZ!WLAN Repeater software.
[3] With the current IPv6-implementation AVM already follows the current IETF-suggestion, to not establish a 6to4-tunnel automatically, as long as the Internet provider does not support IPv6 natively.
Please explicitly configure 6to4 as connection type if you wish to use 6to4 for your IPv6 connection.
[4] The energy consumption values have been recalibrated in this release. Due to this they will differ from the displayed valued of the former release version.
[5] To be able to use all new DECT features, please make sure to also update the firmware of your FRITZ!Fon to the latest available version.
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Just getting now from your linky Ardua, thanks
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Anyone using this latest version 84-05-20 on an existing VDSL2 (FTTC) connection and who is seeing some benefit, please let us know; before I bother! :whistle:
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Had at least four instances of it clearing connection since I put it on, if I get many more I'll be going back to beta
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Another new one out
ftp://ftp.avm.de/fritz.box/fritzbox.fon_wlan_7390/firmware/english/
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Looks
Another new one out
ftp://ftp.avm.de/fritz.box/fritzbox.fon_wlan_7390/firmware/english/
Looks like it's for International version only, but think I might give it a go anyhow
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Looks
Looks like it's for International version only, but think I might give it a go anyhow
No need to use the ftp link. Update 84.05.21 is available via the GUI firmware update button. Yesterday's update was stable for me. Downstream reduced slightly but upstream speed increased resulting in lots of errors. The latest firmware has resulted in a 0.5Mbps increase in downstream and a reduction in upstream back to its recent level.
Edit: A quick check of the GUI shows no errors whatsoever per minute in the 'send' direction and about 0.7 in the receive direction. For me it looks to be more stable than yesterday's .20 version. Just noticed though that on my account page Encapsulation is showing 3 clear buttons on an ADSL2+ connection. The only other change that I can see is the bit swap was turned on yesterday and is off today - again in the send direction.
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I am beginning to wonder whether firmware version 84.05.20 was ever built for UK release as 84.05.21 appears to be much more stable. My downstream CRCs are at 1 per minute and upstream is only 0.21 per minute. I will interested to see how the latest firmware performs when FTTC is installed next week.
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OS 5.20 is quite stable on my VDSL2 connection. The reported Noise Margin and CRC errors hardly vary (EDIT 6/7 down 6 up and up to 0.3pm); as I have interleaving on due to a high 20dB attenuation the reporting of FEC (corrected) errors fluctuates wildly (EDIT a few hundred thousand down to a few hundred pm) which makes me wonder if the stats are accurate, but it hardly matters to performance which keeps the IP profile at 38.71, sync 39992/6600 approx. (and higher FEC levels arguably just show the system is working effectively).
My experience with both the OR modem and Fritz! is that VDSL is more stable than ADSL (unless perhaps you have an existing HR fault with an unstable line which might show up more with higher speeds), as I would expect on most lines as the DSL copper (or ali) run is much shorter and fibre (to the Cabinet) is a much better transmission medium with low or negligible signal loss. I do not get the resyncs I used to get on ADSL - the only performance issue is the occasional loss of internet connectivity due to an outage on the BTw network, but the DSLAM stays in sync. No firmware update has made a material difference to my VDSL2 speeds more than I would expect of any resync depending on the daily variations of environmental conditions due to temperature fluctuations affecting the copper.
I have never heard of AVM producing specific UK firmware. Nothing I have seen leads me to conclude it has a sufficiently large market in the UK: it's too expensive for most residential users, with poor customisation options for the expert, and fewer options than a standalone business PABX, so I think it falls between too many stools. There is a suggestion on Whirlpool.au that v.21 was issued due to a potential problem in the case of a factory reset in the earlier version, which sounds more plausible to me.
I suspect the variations in the Fritz!Box performance apart from the usual line conditions are at least in part because it's not designed and tested for specific UK use e.g. the variable performance of analogue signalling and where the UK has modified or not adopted international standards. I believe the UK version is an international version with a UK analogue phone socket and mains plugs.
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Up until yesterday I was getting 2m+ FEC errors/15 mins, I did a speedtest yesterday and BT reported at 12kbps down/ 0kbps up, support took a look and sent the line details to BT for investigation, hopefully they find the problem.
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Glenn, from your few posts on the subject I suspect your line has a problem; but I've had a few "rogue" BTSpeedtester results like that, usually the test doesn't complete and I can do another, but if I repeat the test anyway after a few hours it comes back up to the 38.71 profile and the 38 throughput; and if I recall you have better attenuation, so a shorter and better (in theory) line?
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Mervl - you could be right about v.20 and .21. All reference to v.20 has disappeared from the AVM site. V.21 is working well for me. Errors are down to what I was getting with the last beta and I have a 0.5Mbps downstream increase. I see that the Aussies are suggesting that there may be some issues but apart from a missing Encapsulation button all is fine with me.
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21 much more stable for me, no disconnections or "Clearing" since I put it on early yesterday morning
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21 much more stable for me, no disconnections or "Clearing" since I put it on early yesterday morning
I spoke too soon. I had a 'no obvious reason' disconnect at 9.06am and my downstream has risen by 1.2Mbps to just under 18 and my upstream has fallen back to 888 from 1048. Never seen the upstream that low in the past 12 months. My log also shows a phantom call last night. I haven't had one of those for weeks.
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I spoke too soon. I had a 'no obvious reason' disconnect at 9.06am and my downstream has risen by 1.2Mbps to just under 18 and my upstream has fallen back to 888 from 1048. Never seen the upstream that low in the past 12 months. My log also shows a phantom call last night. I haven't had one of those for weeks.
I never used it on ADSL variants, but would guess that as a VDSL modem with "backwards" compatibility with earlier variants of DSL there's likely to be a bit of trouble. Hopefully things will be better for you with VDSL2 - not long now? ADSL modems are notorious - some better than others. I too have got the phantom call back, after loosing it with the Febuary beta. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your point of view) BT are pushing the copper's capabilities and trying to save costs with their hefty investment to bring better services to the final 10% and their commercial roll-out, so with antique analogue and more skimping on maintenance (correction, repair) I surmise that variable performance is something we are all going to have to get used to.
I'm still not sure that AVM's tinkering with the firmware is necessarily advantageous: one of the perceived advantages of the OR modem is I think it uses a Broadcomm chipset which matches that used by BT in the cab, rather than the Ikanos chipset in the Fritz. I just get the feeling that each time I upgrade it takes a bit of time for them to become familiarised again.
By the way, sorry for the cheek, but I'm trying to drum up interest for a better and simpler stats comparison project to which anyone interested could contribute on the Fritz!Forum on Mom'ilc's site if you (or other Fritz' users) could find time to respond to my post over there!!
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@merv, do you still have to wait for posts to be moderated over there?
Will be discussing FTTC with my ISP later on tonight hopefully
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@FritzBox: I've made the point that's a b. nuisance, and you do get pre-authorised (usually after a couple of posts). It's the spamming prob.
@Ardua: A thought, has the firmware changed your stability settings?
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@Ardua: A thought, has the firmware changed your stability settings?
Just checked. Stability settings haven't changed. Downstream SNR is 4 and upstream 6. Since the increase in downstream speed and reduction in upstream I have zero errors upstream. Downstream the CRC rate remains as before but I am now getting FEC errors which was not the case with v.20 and its predecessors: I imagine that this is due to the high connection speed. I will now let the connection do its own thing as I am not a great believer in fiddling.
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My FEC Errors for the last 15 mins is 1840140
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My FEC Errors for the last 15 mins is 1840140
Obviously, I have no need to worry. Currently showing 3226 in the past 15 minutes.
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Doesn't really seem to have any adverse effects, still no disconnections, so it can error as much as it likes
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FEC errors are an indication that interleaving is doing its job. If you didn't have them before then your line wasn't previously interleaved.
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FEC errors are an indication that interleaving is doing its job. If you didn't have them before then your line wasn't previously interleaved.
My line contains to purr along at 18Mbps down and 0.88Mbps up compared to 16.5Mbps down and 1.05Mbps up a day or so ago. The only thing that I have done is update the firmware to v.21. Is interleaving an automatic process controlled by the system? My downstream SNR has remained at 4 since the speed increase and the overall error rate has fallen. I am not in anyway unhappy or bothered: I am just curious.
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http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/interleaving.htm
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@ Steve Thanks. Still doesn't explain why after 12 months my upstream speed has fallen. I thought that I would check to see whether this was just a 'blip' so I unplugged my FB for 30 minutes whilst I went out for a paper. It has re-synch'd at exactly the same speeds. Somewhat academic with 5 days to go to an FTTC install but interesting nevertheless.
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After nearly 4 days of chugging along at 18 down and .888 up, my router log shows a disconnect at 4am today and speeds have reverted back to a more usual 17.2 down and 1.06 up. :slap:
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I had a disconnect around that time too, last 30 mins - 1 hour.
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I had a disconnect around that time too, last 30 mins - 1 hour.
BTw again? Nothing here in the SE (connected to red6 @ Stepney Green, though we have worked planned overnight on the 16th apparently according to the useful Zen checker). I always find that speeds on a resync vary by a margin of +/- 10% on my (reliable) FTTC connection (and firmware updates make no difference, so I'm really not sure what all AVM's tinkering achieves, seems like swings and roundabouts, as I would expect); on ADSL (equally reliable) it used to be up to, and sometimes over, 25%! There's no guarantees with residential copper, not for the money we pay Openreach at Ofcom's dicktat anyway.
I'm not sure whether AVM's Ikanos chipset is the best thing to use with BT's usual Broadcomm equipment (as used in OR's modems) - my connection seems to take a bit of time to settle down after an upgrade, though it doesn't give rise to any resyncs.
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The feed from an FTTC modem is simply an Ethernet connection so I thought the only thing the router did was act as a PPPoE endpoint to provide the credentials for authentication and mange the upper layers of the TCP/IP stack such as IP addressing.
For any changes to sync speed to occur surely would requiire changes in the firmware running on the modem which detects the line characteristics and negotiates sync speed?
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The feed from an FTTC modem is simply an Ethernet connection so I thought the only thing the router did was act as a PPPoE endpoint to provide the credentials for authentication and mange the upper layers of the TCP/IP stack such as IP addressing.
For any changes to sync speed to occur surely would requiire changes in the firmware running on the modem which detects the line characteristics and negotiates sync speed?
Yes and no. Surely, it depends on whether the Fritz!Box is being used as a router connected to the BT-provided modem or as a standalone unit using the FB's built in VDSL capability. As stated above, the FB uses an Ikanos chipset.
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Upgraded. ADSl2+ syncing about 400bps slower than the old version. No improvement on the analogue line noise problem so can't connect a handset to the Y connector - it has to go direct into the wall socket. Have sent off a grumblegram.
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Upgraded. ADSl2+ syncing about 400bps slower than the old version. No improvement on the analogue line noise problem so can't connect a handset to the Y connector - it has to go direct into the wall socket. Have sent off a grumblegram.
The only advice that I can offer after a year on ADSL2+ is have patience. My connection rate rose from 9Mbps on transfer to ADSL2+ and then it rose to 18Mbps - that said, it took a few months before I saw any significant fall in downstream SNR. You are in a 10 day training period and, as I understand it, BT will not listen to any complaints until the training period is over. I am sure Support will explain the detail better than I have done. Best of luck.
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Tks Ardua. I'm not really worried about the slightly slower speed although it's not what you expect after a new release - or is it? I just wish they could get the analogue telephone to work as expected via the Y lead. Maybe I've just got an iffy cable. I might try and get another one made up. Not something I could do myself without suitable crimping tools but I know a man who does. Bob
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Tks Ardua. I'm not really worried about the slightly slower speed although it's not what you expect after a new release - or is it? I just wish they could get the analogue telephone to work as expected via the Y lead. Maybe I've just got an iffy cable. I might try and get another one made up. Not something I could do myself without suitable crimping tools but I know a man who does. Bob
What's the problem with your phones? I have 2 Fons and a Gigaset handset connected to my FB ( via DECT) and they all work fine. I have a filtered faceplate and an inline filter ( ie; a double filter). CLI works fine and the only issue that I have is the occasional phantom call. It happens in the quiet hours and I have Do NoT Disturb enabled so it is really not an issue.
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Analogue handset connected to the telephone outlet on the Y cable has very low level transmission plus excessive sidetone (background mush). I also have a Siemens digital handset plus two DECT fons. The Siemens phone via an RJ45 connection on Fritz with a SIP Phone number works fine as do the DECT phones answering a SIP call. However the DECT phones suffer bad transmission if the call comes in via the analogue line. So it's a pain cos I can't connect my BT analogue number to the Fritzbox and utilise the DECT phones.
Analogue connected direct to faceplate works just fine. Originally I had a plan 1a (parallel phone) connected to the BT junction box but I've disconnected that so there is a direct single connection from the BT network to my box/faceplate.
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I am not sure that I can help as I do not use an analogue handset and I am not sure what you mean by 'telephone outlet on the Y cable'? I did plug an analogue headset in yesterday just to check that an extension socket was still live and I couldn't ring out with the FB connected. I unplugged the FB and everything was fine. Reading the manual, page 24 does indicate that analogue devices should be connected to the FON 1 or FON 2 sockets. Have a look at Whirlpool.net.au - they have a lot of FB users with phone issues/solutions. Sorry that I cannot be of more help.
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That's OK Ardua. I'll await the response to my grumblegram. Thanks Bob
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Apparently, there is yet another beta available for the FB7390 - 84.05.22-22182. I haven't installed it as some of the download sites look a bit dodgy to me. It is not showing in Fritz!Labs but some have said it can be downloaded from AVM ftp. I confess that I couldn't find it.
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Apparently, there is yet another beta available for the FB7390 - 84.05.22-22182. I haven't installed it as some of the download sites look a bit dodgy to me. It is not showing in Fritz!Labs but some have said it can be downloaded from AVM ftp. I confess that I couldn't find it.
Can't find it either
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The link for beta 22182 is here:
ftp://service.avm.de/Beta/FRITZ!Box%207390%20int/
I am reluctant to fiddle with my box as I am still in the FTTC 10-day training period. I would be interested to know from anyone on FTTC whether this sorts out the PSTN CLID issue. I had CLID for about 36 hours but it has now disappeared. ???
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International version?
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International version?
According to the guy on the Whirlpool site - 'Yes'. Other 3rd party sites are showing that an international version was released yesterday. Just Google Fritz!Box 7390 22182. The only problem is that when I download a file, I get a 15.2Mb file titled 'Unknown'. Apart from the loss of CLID, version 21 is working fine for me. My instincts tell me to leave it to others to take the plunge first.
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I've downloaded it, but I haven't checked out the file, besides I have a Draytek 2800VG running at the mo. As you say we'll let others steam in first
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I've downloaded it, but I haven't checked out the file, besides I have a Draytek 2800VG running at the mo. As you say we'll let others steam in first
This particular beta seems to have disappeared off the face of the planet. I received an e-mail from AVM suggesting I try the beta as a solution for the CLI problem that I have now got following my update to FTTC. The link that they provided does not work and I cannot find the file on their ftp server. I see that Internode have also withdrawn all reference to it.
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I'm sure something could be sorted if you want to try it ;)
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I'm sure something could be sorted if you want to try it ;)
I finally got it from a German site. I installed it last night and CLI worked for about an hour. So much for AVM's advice that the beta included optimised software for CLIP. Fortunately, the updated software has not affected my FTTC connection. I have reported back to AVM and no doubt they will get back to me with further advice.
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Was just looking for a way to revert back to v21 and I came across this on the AVM site: FRITZ!OS 05.22 (84.05.22). I think that the changes are only minor but I will probably update to get rid of the beta.
Edit: I have version 22.22182 beta installed and I cannot update the firmware via the FB. May be just a glitch.
Edit 2: I have just installed via the ftp server. No problems but still no CLI on my line.
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Does the firmware update overwrite all the manual configuration changes made, eg ports that have been opened?
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Does the firmware update overwrite all the manual configuration changes made, eg ports that have been opened?
I am not sure about ports but other configuration changes are unaffected; e.g., FTTC settings (password etc), DECT settings.... Before pressing the upgrade button in the GUI, you would be well advised to Save Settings which can be restored if anything goes wrong. That said, FB upgrades are usually a pain-free exercise. Version 22 has been out since April. My FTTC connection is stable but I only get CLID about 50% of the time and the phantom call issue is still present
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I've been using the BT OR modem for sometime, could someone let me have their settings for connecting via the Fritzbox please?
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Sorted
"Connecting to a DSL Line" checked
VLAN 101
DSL ATM Settings "Set Manually"
VPl 0
VCl 38
PPPoE "Checked"
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Sorted
"Connecting to a DSL Line" checked
VLAN 101
DSL ATM Settings "Set Manually"
VPl 1
VCl 32
PPPoE "Checked"
Sorted it for you Glenn
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Which one is correct the quote or the post ;D
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Sorted it for you Glenn
Mine doesn't connect with VPI 1 & VCI 32
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It is showing that my line is wrongly configured at max throughput 40/20
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That's interesting Glenn as I suspect mine is but in the opposite direction. However you may lose some latency like me if they push you above 40. Can you get the max attenaimable sync on 17a from the Fritz ? ( like you can from a hacked Huawei
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I just tried 1, 32 again, now it's working. :dunno:
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Can you get the max attenaimable sync on 17a from the Fritz ? ( like you can from a hacked Huawei
Yes. You get the same stats as you get with ADSL. My attainable rates are 100 and 32.
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I just tried 1, 32 again, now it's working. :dunno:
It did take a while the first time I connected
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Yes. You get the same stats as you get with ADSL. My attainable rates are 100 and 32.
So is that the same figure as max attainable rate of 32840 on Glenn's image?
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I think so Steve. Before I started playing, I was getting 36000kbs +, but I think several disconnections may have taken it's toll.
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I get the impression that BT on 80/20 can go either way on marginal connections i.e. more on the downstream or more on the upstream whether that's by choice,randomness or connection type I've no idea.
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And sadly neither do BT!
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Apparently, according to support my line is on a 80/20 connection
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So is that the same figure as max attainable rate of 32840 on Glenn's image?
Yes. FWIW I had a problem with my FB when IDNet switched me from 40/10 to 80/20. I cleared it by carrying out a Factory Re-set.
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Attached are my current FB7390 stats. The problem that I had related to the DSL synch after training. The 80/20 upstream synch was about 50% of the profile; that said, the stats page appeared normal. The 'clue' was in the system log which recorded the stats immediately post training. Powering down the box didn't change anything, but everything was normal after a factory re-set. I am currently on IPs of 77.43 and 20 and my FTTC cabinet is about 250 to 300 Metres away. BT's estimated Infinity speed is 69/20. I get actual speeds of 74.2 and 17.6.
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My FEC error rate is in the last 15 mins 5364842
Totally different to yours Ardua
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My FEC error rate is in the last 15 mins 5364842
Totally different to yours Ardua
Wow - whenever I mention FECs I am told not to worry it is just the box doing what it is supposed to do.
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Crikey, have I really had the Fritz five years? Still going strong :thumb:
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