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Openreach (BT) has informed ISPs and phone providers of their plan to pilot the new SOTAP for Analogue product from 1st May 2024, which is a phone line service that does NOT require broadband to function and will be targetted at vulnerable users who would otherwise struggle with migrating to an All-IP (internet) based phone service by 2025.

SOTAP for Analogue (Single Order Transitional Access Product for Analogue) attempts to replicate (or emulate) a traditional phone line “as closely as possible“. This is a standalone product that will be available “nationally”, even in areas that have already been upgraded to all-IP broadband technologies (e.g. FTTP and FTTC / SOGEA). But the focus here is only on migrations for existing / working lines (WLR3), so consumers won’t be able to order it as a NEW product.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2024/03/openreach-to-pilot-alternative-uk-analogue-phone-line-in-may-2024.html
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IDNet Help / Re: FTTP New Installation Process
« Last post by Postal on Mar 23, 2024, 08:35:08 »
Not nerdy enough. It doesn't account for different types of houses and, as Simon says, it assume everything runs smoothly. I'd be looking for an independent guide.

That seems like you want someone to put together the answers to a whole page of "how long is that piece of string" questions -  welcome to anyone who manages to hit the right level of detail to satisfy that sort of request.
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IDNet Help / Re: FTTP New Installation Process
« Last post by peasblossom on Mar 22, 2024, 22:49:52 »
Like this guide from EE - https://ee.co.uk/help/broadband/getting-started/full-fibre-installation

Not nerdy enough. It doesn't account for different types of houses and, as Simon says, it assume everything runs smoothly. I'd be looking for an independent guide.
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IDNet Help / Re: FTTP New Installation Process
« Last post by Simon on Mar 22, 2024, 11:19:57 »
Like this guide from EE - https://ee.co.uk/help/broadband/getting-started/full-fibre-installation

That, of course, is working on the assumption that all goes to plan without any dramas. 
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IDNet Help / Re: FTTP New Installation Process
« Last post by Postal on Mar 22, 2024, 09:03:46 »
Have to say, it's real shame someone hasn't set up an explainer website where all this is gone into in nerdy (but helpful) detail.

Like this guide from EE - https://ee.co.uk/help/broadband/getting-started/full-fibre-installation
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IDNet Help / Re: FTTP New Installation Process
« Last post by Simon on Mar 21, 2024, 13:17:58 »
Theoretically you could run powerline from ONT to the router, as it's just standard Ethernet, but I would not recommend it. Powerline stuff is rather fickle about mains wiring.

Yes, I know someone in a big old house who was trying to run a powerline from one floor to another, and after days of fiddling about it turned out the floors were on different electrical circuits, so the powerlines wouldn't work. 

I'm fairly sure all my wiring is on the same circuit, as last year I had a problem with an oven that kept blowing the RCD, and it always took all the plugs out. 
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IDNet Help / Re: IDNet VOIP setup Issues
« Last post by nowster on Mar 21, 2024, 13:17:31 »
What's surprising about all this is that there's no encryption enabled (eg. TLS, sRTP) and all data (voice samples, passwords) is going in the clear over the net.
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IDNet Help / Re: FTTP New Installation Process
« Last post by nowster on Mar 21, 2024, 13:10:10 »
Theoretically you could run powerline from ONT to the router, as it's just standard Ethernet, but I would not recommend it. Powerline stuff is rather fickle about mains wiring.
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IDNet Help / Re: FTTP New Installation Process
« Last post by peasblossom on Mar 20, 2024, 20:58:06 »
Sure, not every installation will be the same but it could cover what they can do so you get a feel for the possibilities.
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IDNet Help / Re: IDNet VOIP setup Issues
« Last post by Arctophile on Mar 20, 2024, 16:27:07 »
Many thanks, that is just what I needed to know.
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