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Technical News & Discussion => IDNet Help => Topic started by: Clive on Mar 04, 2014, 17:58:04

Title: BT mail
Post by: Clive on Mar 04, 2014, 17:58:04
I've had my BTInternet address for over 15 years even though I no longer use BT as my ISP.  I've now received an e-mail demanding I pay them £1.60 a month if I wish to continue using the address although whether or not the e-mail is genuine or not is another matter since I receive up to 20 phishing e-mails
purporting to come from BTInternet every single day.  Most go into my spam box but many end up in my in box.  When I hover my mouse over the links they do appear to be genuine.  Sadly, I cannot export my contact list from BT and I've forgotten my username and password for Windows Live Mail which replaced my much loved Outlook Express.  I seem to be up a creek without a paddle!  :laugh:  I know £1.60 a month is not a lot but I feel I'm being held to ransom by an unscrupulous bunch of crooks and I don't like it.  Any ideas how I can get out of this situation?   :D
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Steve on Mar 04, 2014, 18:02:52
Sorry Clive, but why should customers who no longer use BT broadband expect to have 'life long' free use of a pre existing email account.
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Simon on Mar 04, 2014, 18:09:03
The same goes for ex-IDNet customers, but it does appear to be the case that existing IDNet email addresses will remain active after the customer has left. 

I guess the simplest solution is to change from the BT email address, although I know this is an inconvenience when you've used one email address for a long time. 
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Clive on Mar 04, 2014, 18:26:55
I would have thought it was good advertising for them for a start!  OK, lets concentrate on Windows Live Mail. If I forget my login details on any website I can usually find at least some clues on the website or ask them for assistance.  I'm logged into LiveMail but I can't even see my username.  How can I find it?   :(
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Lance on Mar 04, 2014, 18:29:50
I'm logged into LiveMail but I can't even see my username.

I'm probably being stupid, but how did you log in without the username?
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Clive on Mar 04, 2014, 18:46:57
Because I've never logged out of it since it was created.   ;D
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: nowster on Mar 04, 2014, 18:55:42
Get a cheap domain name (eg. .org.uk or .me.uk from Gandi.net is about £4 per year ex VAT, or £3/year ex VAT if you buy 2 or more years at once) and most registrars will throw in multiple "free" email accounts with the domain name. You can then freely move that domain name between registrars if the service deteriorates -- it's yours, not the ISP's.
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Simon on Mar 04, 2014, 19:15:44
Is oldgit.com still available?  :evil: :)x

Clive, if you know the email address for your Live Mail account, perhaps you could log out, then use the password reminder link which should be on the login page?
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Simon on Mar 04, 2014, 19:18:12
Or go to the settings page, which should give your details, although, that's a guess as I don't use it myself.
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Clive on Mar 04, 2014, 21:59:07
Is oldgit.com still available?  :evil: :)x

Clive, if you know the email address for your Live Mail account, perhaps you could log out, then use the password reminder link which should be on the login page?

That's the problem Simon, I don't know which address I created.  I treated the LiveMail account as nuisance value and never thought I would need to log in and out of it.  At least I can access my address book with it.  I'm determined I'm not going to pay the BT crooks for keeping my e-mail address which I originally had as a free Yahoo address! 
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Simon on Mar 04, 2014, 22:03:55
Surely, as you're logged in, it must display the email address somewhere?   ???  If not, send an email from your livemail account to your BT one and see what address it comes from.  :)

Of course, you can always use your IDNet email address.  :)
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: nowster on Mar 04, 2014, 22:46:15
oldgit.com seems to be registered to SPARTA TRADING S.A. of Dubai, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Simon on Mar 04, 2014, 22:56:03
Shame.  I might even have had it for myself!  ;D
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Lance on Mar 04, 2014, 23:16:11
Veryoldgit.com is available for Simon :D
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: pctech on Mar 05, 2014, 02:12:01
Clive

I do seriously recommend spending some money on your own domain so you are not tied to anyone, it was one of the best things I did.

Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: nowster on Mar 05, 2014, 08:15:58
PS. There are some unscrupulous domain registrars out there who have hidden charges and charge you leaving fees for moving away from them. Always read the small print.
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Clive on Mar 05, 2014, 08:41:18
I have a month to sort it out and I'll keep you informed.   :laugh:
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: colirv on Mar 05, 2014, 09:48:51
BT crooks (for) keeping my e-mail address which I originally had as a free Yahoo address! 

How did that work?
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Clive on Mar 05, 2014, 20:47:41
BT Mail was BT Yahoo and the addresses were interchangeable back at the very beginning.  I'm not sure now if this £1.60 a month applies to Talk21 customers only.  According to ISPReview  (hands up all those who were members)  :laugh: the charge was supposed to be implemented from September 2013. 
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Simon on Mar 05, 2014, 20:53:27
 :angel:
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Clive on Mar 05, 2014, 22:32:55
I'm trying to remember your username on ISPR.   :laugh: 
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Simon on Mar 05, 2014, 23:24:11
So am I!  :red:
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Clive on Mar 06, 2014, 19:53:30
Wasn't it Lord something or other?  :dunno:  Mine was Clive and I think I was member number 375.   :D 
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Simon on Mar 06, 2014, 20:23:34
If it was Lord something, I know what the something probably was, but I still use that elsewhere, so if I told you I'd have to kill you.  :evil:  ;)
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Clive on Mar 06, 2014, 21:44:04
 :lmao:  I would probably forget within a minute of you telling me what it was.   ;D
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Simon on Mar 06, 2014, 22:11:36
Well, you remembered the first part for 13 years!  :laugh:
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Clive on Mar 07, 2014, 08:13:29
No doubt the second part will come to me eventually but it will be our secret.  OK, I'm open to all offers over £1.   ;D
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Glenn on Jul 21, 2014, 13:16:42
Coming back to this, you can get BT mail for free for 12 months https://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumer/edw/premium-mail/
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: nowster on Jul 21, 2014, 14:18:46
£1.60 per month? Get yerself a .me.uk or .org.uk domain name for £7-ish for 2 years (ie. £3.50-ish per year) and get proper email thrown in for free. The domain is yours then to keep (as long as you pay the renewal fee every two years) and you're not tied to any one provider.
Title: Re: BT mail
Post by: Clive on Jul 21, 2014, 21:20:32
I had it free for four years and I'm certain it was a phishing e-mail that made me sign up for Premium mail.  Of course I didn't use the links provided by the phishing e-mail but went to the BT website instead.  I *still* get e-mails telling me my account is about to close and it's almost impossible to tell where they come from.  comms@bt.com is common or ebilling@bt.com.  By hovering the mouse over the sender most are revealed to come from dipstick@aol.com or something equally stupid.   Mrs Clive was adamant about keeping her BT address and I thought trading our £37.50 a month Sky subscription for a £1.60 BT was a great deal.   :evil:

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