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Technical News & Discussion => IDNet Help => Topic started by: stevelondon on Oct 17, 2006, 12:16:30

Title: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: stevelondon on Oct 17, 2006, 12:16:30
Is it me or has the bandwidth usage page changed format?
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Lance on Oct 17, 2006, 12:32:49
not only changed format but changed information! the more detailed breakdown is quite useful, but i wonder if they could change it from the last five days to month-to-date?
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Scott on Oct 17, 2006, 12:39:43
Quote from: stevelondon on Oct 17, 2006, 12:16:30
Is it me or has the bandwidth usage page changed format?

dammit...I haven't logged in in months ! Now what's that password again !
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: stevelondon on Oct 17, 2006, 14:02:13
I changed my password to login ages ago but every now and again i have to login with my original passord and change it again does anyone else have that? (if you get what i mean lol)  :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( :angel: :laugh: :police: :banana2:
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Bill on Oct 17, 2006, 14:07:56
Quote from: lance on Oct 17, 2006, 12:32:49
not only changed format but changed information! the more detailed breakdown is quite useful, but i wonder if they could change it from the last five days to month-to-date?
It'll go that way, but they only have the daily figures from the 12th. They can't show what they haven't got!
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Bill on Oct 17, 2006, 14:10:23
Quote from: stevelondon on Oct 17, 2006, 14:02:13
I changed my password to login ages ago but every now and again i have to login with my original passord and change it again does anyone else have that? (if you get what i mean lol)  :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( :angel: :laugh: :police: :banana2:
Yeah, same here. I think the new software "loses" the new passwords, so when they try something new it gets reset to the original one.

Simon is aware of it.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Lance on Oct 17, 2006, 14:11:28
Quote from: Bill on Oct 17, 2006, 14:07:56
It'll go that way, but they only have the daily figures from the 12th. They can't show what they haven't got!

valid point. i just assumed they chose to change the method of displaying the information they already had. i didn't think that they may have actually changed the information they get!
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: stevelondon on Oct 17, 2006, 14:14:44
Quote from: Bill on Oct 17, 2006, 14:10:23
Yeah, same here. I think the new software "loses" the new passwords, so when they try something new it gets reset to the original one.

Simon is aware of it.


Ahh thanks for that Bill i always wondered why  ::)

Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Bill on Oct 17, 2006, 14:15:57
Yeah, previously they only got usage data from the Radius servers when you disconnected, which made mine look odd because I very seldom disconnect!

Now they get hourly figures, so the usage figures are now close to real-time.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: stevelondon on Oct 17, 2006, 15:23:02
 Much better.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Danni on Oct 17, 2006, 17:17:40
It looks good, but now I don't know how much bandwidth I have left, and whether I'll be able to download the Edgy cd on 26th October or not :( (New Kubuntu version)
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Bill on Oct 17, 2006, 17:38:10
Quote from: Danni on Oct 17, 2006, 17:17:40
It looks good, but now I don't know how much bandwidth I have left, and whether I'll be able to download the Edgy cd on 26th October or not :( (New Kubuntu version)

IDNet are waiving any usage prior to the 12th as the figures aren't available.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: maxping on Oct 17, 2006, 17:47:29
I use Netmeter its free & accurate and only   2 clicks to all the info below. (this isnt mine BTW)

Note all the tabs across the top. http://readerror.gmxhome.de/

(http://www.webservusb.com/images/netmeter-totals.gif)
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: HungLO on Oct 17, 2006, 18:20:29
Quote from: Bill on Oct 17, 2006, 17:38:10
IDNet are waiving any usage prior to the 12th as the figures aren't available.

Not that I don't trust you Bill, but is this a true statement? Can anyone else validate this? :o

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: drummer on Oct 18, 2006, 00:39:28
Quote from: HungLO on Oct 17, 2006, 18:20:29
Not that I don't trust you Bill, but is this a true statement? Can anyone else validate this? :o

Thanks in advance.
It would really help if this could be confirmed as I have no idea how much I downloaded before the 12th and I certainly don't want to fall foul of the limit.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Scott on Oct 18, 2006, 10:33:32
I'll dbl check with Simon and post back chaps.
[Query sent - awaiting response]
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Simon_idnet on Oct 18, 2006, 17:01:34
Hi All

We have wiped the bandwidth slate clean as of 11th October. For this month the allowance will only count between 12th and 31st October. We're sorry that we lost the historical data and so this is the least that we can do.

Naturally, we will be contacting anyone who uses more than their allowance (2Gb or 30Gb) during this period or in future months.

Regards
Simon
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Nerval on Oct 18, 2006, 17:19:13
Just occurred to me to ask.

Does the 30GB allowance normally run from beginning to end of month (1st to 30th or whatever), in which case if I join tomorrow it would be pro-rata to the end of the month. Or is it from join date to join date - in my case that would be from 19th of this month to 18th of next?
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: stevelondon on Oct 18, 2006, 17:28:15
From beginning to end of month
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Nerval on Oct 18, 2006, 17:46:09
Thanks steve.  So i'll now work out 12/31*30   :laugh:
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: jackmalanak on Oct 18, 2006, 17:54:35
 ;D
Sorry for being a bit thick here but what's the first of the two figures that simon is referring to in his last post. I understand the 30Gb monthly download amount but not sure about the 2Gb figure.

Thanks
jackmalanak
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Gilba on Oct 18, 2006, 18:32:17
I believe tthe 2GB is the allowance for the lite service.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: maxping on Oct 18, 2006, 19:35:20
Quote from: Gilba on Oct 18, 2006, 18:32:17
I believe tthe 2GB is the allowance for the lite service.

Yep  ;)
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: jackmalanak on Oct 18, 2006, 20:10:27
 :)
Cheers guys you learn something everyday.

jackmalanak
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: drummer on Oct 18, 2006, 20:54:48
Thanks Simon and Scott for clearing that up.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Danni on Oct 19, 2006, 19:18:34
Quote from: maxping on Oct 17, 2006, 17:47:29
I use Netmeter its free & accurate and only   2 clicks to all the info below. (this isnt mine BTW)
{snip}

Does it work on Linux? And how on earth will it monitor all usage on 2 PCs and a laptop? :P
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: maxping on Oct 19, 2006, 19:21:53

Does it work on Linux?  

Don't know i haven't tried it  ;)

And how on earth will it monitor all usage on 2 PCs and a laptop? :P

In options you can set what interface you would like to monitor , i have it set to "All Interfaces"  :P


Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: karvala on Oct 19, 2006, 21:53:21
Programs like Netmeter are okay (Bitmeter2 is better IMO, but they're the same sort of thing), but you run into problems if you run a LAN from a modem/router, because the programs simply monitor all traffic on specified interfaces; there is no way to distinguish between packets coming from other machines on the LAN, and from the WAN.  As such, if you have a LAN, you'll get very inflated figures.  If you just use it on a standalone machine, it's fine.

If you do use a LAN, you can of course get the traffic stats from the router instead in most cases, although you have to be careful to log them or they can get lost if you reboot or reset the router.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Danni on Oct 19, 2006, 22:31:49
And there is the other problem- there is a lot of traffic between the PCs and laptop (one of the PCs is my daughters but also acts as my fileserver as my laptop has limited space) and that can be several GB a day. I think I'll stick with IDNet's (router doesn't keep those sort of logs).
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: jaydub on Oct 20, 2006, 08:06:41
If you have an SNMP enabled router, try PRTG.  It is able to monitor the PPP port on your router.

The only downside is that if you want your figures to match the ISPs you need to keep the monitoring PC on for 24 hours a day.

We run it on our main PC and just try to keep that PC on whilst there is any other PC in the house connecting to the internet.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: VaderDSL on Oct 23, 2006, 08:11:36
Sorry to rehash the same question, but was just wondering, the cap runs from beginning of the month until the end yes?

Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Lance on Oct 23, 2006, 08:58:56
That's what I've read elsewhere on this forum. Someone asked the same question not long ago and it was confirmed that it is indeed beginning to end of month.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Nerval on Oct 23, 2006, 09:05:17
Yes, I asked it, and stevelondon confirmed that it works from beginning to end of calendar month.

That I suppose is why the bandwidth counter on your account page works by calendar month.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: VaderDSL on Oct 23, 2006, 13:42:22
Quote from: Nerval on Oct 23, 2006, 09:05:17
Yes, I asked it, and stevelondon confirmed that it works from beginning to end of calendar month.

That I suppose is why the bandwidth counter on your account page works by calendar month.

Cheers, was worried as it only shows 12 October 2006 to 23 October 2006 and it is less than 1Gb off 30Gb.
Title: Re: Bandwidth usage page
Post by: Nerval on Oct 23, 2006, 13:53:45
If I remember, Simon posted elsewhere that the bandwidth monitor was reset on 12th, and that bandwidth before than wouldn't count for this month.  But if you're up to 29GB with a week to go, it doesn't look too good.