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Title: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: peasblossom on Oct 23, 2013, 16:58:05
Well I'd like to but, on the off chance someone has an answer to this (you never know) I'd like to ask what it costs to switch. I'm on a payg tariff and yup, I'd have to cough up to leave. (I checked and this is right but it's silent on the £ involved.) Daren't ask in case they assume I definitely want to leave and start the process. Anyone?
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: Baz on Oct 23, 2013, 17:50:28
Im not an expert but I find that very strange...a PAYG that you have to pay to leave  :dunno: isnt that the idea of payg, just use it when you want,how much you want. So as far as I know it doesnt cost to switch unless you leave a contract early, say a 18 month contract and you leave after 16 months.

Theres no harm in asking they shouldnt take it as you leaving unless you actually tell them " i wish to end my contract from...." whenever date.Also they usually say they require 30 days notice.So if you do want to leave make sure that you do tell them 30 days before the date your contract is due to end.They should tell you if you ask when will be the earliest you can leave without paying or if you wish to leave early how much it will cost.

Again, just enquiring about it is not saying you want to leave.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: MisterW on Oct 23, 2013, 17:58:28
QuoteI'm on a payg tariff and yup, I'd have to cough up to leave.
I'm with Baz, that doesn't sound right at all!. I moved my PAYG number from Orange to Giffgaff not long ago. You just need to call and request a PAC code, they can't charge you for it unless you're in a contract. The only thing you lose is any credit left on your phone since that won't get transferred. In fact what I did was use one of the charity text message donation services to use most of my credit as I didn't want Orange to get it!.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: Baz on Oct 23, 2013, 18:25:11
haha  thats a good idea about the charity text MisterW.

Yeah the PAC code you need only if you want to keep your number you have now and use it on your new provider.The codes only last 30 days from when you ask for them,ask the same time you tell them you want to leave and they should give it to you over the phone or within a day I think.Not sure of the time scale,mine have always been when I phoned up to cancel.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: Simon on Oct 23, 2013, 18:26:16
As above.  Pay, use it, and go!  There should be no contract involved. 
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: MisterW on Oct 23, 2013, 18:40:18
Quoteand they should give it to you over the phone
Orange sent it as a text message to my phone there and then.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: peasblossom on Oct 23, 2013, 22:17:21
Thank you. I'm really not sure how I got the idea I had to pay now but I don't and I know this because I rang to ask and having got the answer promptly asked for and received my PAC code. Now to work out exactly who to go for. It's down to two providers.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: Lance on Oct 24, 2013, 13:46:53
Three get my recommendation at the moment.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: zappaDPJ on Oct 24, 2013, 19:03:04
I'd recommend Tesco Mobile (O2 network) especially if there's the possibility of having two or more contracts with them. I pay £20 per month in total for two SIM only contracts.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: Lance on Oct 24, 2013, 22:44:15
My work blackberry is on O2 and 10 times out of 10 my personal iphone on Three has a better, stronger signal. I only pay £10 per month sim only too.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: Steve on Oct 25, 2013, 06:14:57
 Three signal is non existent downstairs at home  (iPad) O2 is fine on the phone, my other choice for me is Orange it's well covered locally with good 3G signal.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: Technical Ben on Oct 25, 2013, 09:27:40
The "you have to pay" comes from the young crowd (or slightly older, if going by the friends and people I know) who always, despite best advice get a contract then decide to change 6 months later. A 12 month contract has a buy out clause etc.  :slap:

I've known friends do it multiple times over, and I just look at them like  :eyebrow: politely. (Got nothing good to say, don't say it)
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: peasblossom on Oct 25, 2013, 18:56:32
They really need to go for Three, Ben, don't they? (Contract ends when credits runs out apparently.) Or one of thsoe rolling SIM only contracts. But they may have been told all this. Incidentally, Three were one of the two. Thanks people.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: peasblossom on Nov 15, 2013, 17:50:06
So, I'm getting towards to point I can do this now and I'd like to do what MrW suggests with the rest of my credit. My question is, how do I time this? And can you donate parts of a pound (like 50p or 51p, say?)  TIA.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: MisterW on Nov 15, 2013, 19:20:30
I think you can only donate whole  £1's. Have a Google for just text giving and your town/county to see what local charities have the facility.
The number porting usually happens within a day or two of the request so I did it as soon as the PAC request had been made.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: pctech on Nov 15, 2013, 19:55:14
Another vote for giffgaff here but as where I live is a black hole for pretty much every network bar O2 I am somewhat limited.

Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: JohnH on Nov 22, 2013, 20:09:56
5 bars on Vodafone with a Sure Signal and 20% off the line rental under the Employee Advantage Scheme works for me.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: peasblossom on Feb 06, 2014, 18:35:47
I guess most of you thought this was done and dusted. Sadly not. Nigh on 3 months and Orange still won't (it seems) give me an unlocking code so, would any of you use an online service to obtain a code?
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: Simon on Feb 06, 2014, 18:39:48
As long as you're out if contract, what they're doing has to be illegal.  I'm sure someone will know of a regulatory body you can threaten them with. 
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: peasblossom on Feb 06, 2014, 18:50:58
Ofcom don't regulate unlocking (they see it as an equipment issue.) Wiki says companies aren't actually obliged to do this. Wiki might be wrong of course... I am aware of CISAS, by the way.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: MisterW on Feb 06, 2014, 18:54:08
Quotewould any of you use an online service to obtain a code?
I used one recently. Bought a Moto G from Tesco, unlock code £2 from ebay. Worked a treat!
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: pctech on Feb 06, 2014, 19:00:07
Only time I've heard that is with Virgin Mobile, you'd have had to top up at least 30 quid to get a PAC which is of course was not an issue in my case when I left as I'd had an active SIM for four years, I ported my number to O2.

When I wanted to move to Giffgaff I just requested a PAC from O2 Customer Services and they texted it to me.

How long has the Orange SIM been active?

Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: peasblossom on Feb 06, 2014, 19:08:22
Well put it like this. If it's stopped being active, Orange haven't said anything. And I have had this phone for long enough for them to give me a code.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: pctech on Feb 06, 2014, 19:12:16
Ring and ask for the PAC (don't use the word cancellation) and see what they say.

The PAC is valid for 30 days once issued, your phone will keep working as is until a transfer is processed.

Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: peasblossom on Feb 06, 2014, 19:16:57
It's an unlocking code not a port authorisation code I need, though.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: Simon on Feb 06, 2014, 19:28:55
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood.  So you want to unlock your Orange phone to work on other networks?
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: Technical Ben on Feb 06, 2014, 19:30:13
Yes, AFAIK they are not obliged to (in other countries it may be different). And it's poor service from them, but if they are chasing profit margins over actual work done, then they probably don't even have a system to provide you one. :(
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: pctech on Feb 06, 2014, 20:01:09
Ah, think they can charge for those if they've not recovered their subsidy
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: peasblossom on Feb 07, 2014, 09:23:13
Quote from: Simon on Feb 06, 2014, 19:28:55
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood.  So you want to unlock your Orange phone to work on other networks?
Yes.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: zappaDPJ on Feb 07, 2014, 14:36:55
I'd check here if you haven't already done so to see if you can unlock your phone for free: http://giffgaff.com/unlock
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: peasblossom on Feb 07, 2014, 16:10:37
I have checked that Giff Gaff site (it's a handy resource whether you want to sign up to them or not) and while there is a way, it's not guaranteed to work or not break my phone. So I'd rather not.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: Technical Ben on Feb 07, 2014, 19:41:39
I'm braver. I had/have an old LG Cookie that was really playing up and kept dying. I tried a reset and everything, but I guess it may have been a hardware problem (loose connector on something?).
In a last ditch effort to fix it, I thought "Oh, I can just take out the inner battery, like the CMOS battery on a PC". Lesson learned, the equivalent bios/watch battery in the phone (strangely it did seem to have one) is soldered in. So I did not get it "back" on the board, or in working order. :P

No loss though, the phone was practically dead anyhow.
Title: Re: Saying bye bye to Orange
Post by: pctech on Feb 08, 2014, 21:47:50
What phone are you trying to unlock anyway?