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Title: My Android won't make calls
Post by: D-Dan on Jan 16, 2011, 02:15:28
Hardly surprising since I installed Android OS onto a VM on my PC, just to see what the fuss is about.

Anyone recommend any good apps?

Steve
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Technical Ben on Jan 16, 2011, 13:06:58
You could probably go one further and ditch the VM for a full boot of the os? Although not sure if it works like that yet. :P
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: D-Dan on Jan 16, 2011, 14:10:43
I'm sure it would work, but it wouldn't be pleasant. Bear in mind it's designed for a phone or touch screen. Doesn't respond to the mouse and only half the keyboard works.

Steve
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Technical Ben on Jan 16, 2011, 23:30:31
Hope Googles OS is a lot better then.  :eek4:
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: D-Dan on Jan 17, 2011, 00:05:19
I tried Google's pre-release (ChromeOS), again in a VM, and to be honest I hated it. I can see some people liking the simplicity, but I prefer to have control. Not to mention that I quite simply do not trust the whole "cloud" idea. I want my data and applications safe and sound on my own HD, where I know where they are and what they are doing.

Steve
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Lance on Jan 17, 2011, 07:56:10
Cloud is the long term weather forecast, with many large businesses talking about it if not already doing it.
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Simon on Jan 17, 2011, 10:03:53
Trouble with clouds is, they make it rain.  ;)
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Technical Ben on Jan 18, 2011, 06:42:33
Quote from: Lance on Jan 17, 2011, 07:56:10
Cloud is the long term weather forecast, with many large businesses talking about it if not already doing it.
Most businesses HAVE been doing it for the last 20 years. That is what is so funny about the term.
I might try and invent an "Connectanet" where you have a set of computers linked, sharing data. These will be remote, and use a telecoms industry. But because mine is called a "connectanet" it's got to be a great investment for businesses!

Rose by any other... :whistle:
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Gary on Jan 18, 2011, 09:36:12
Quote from: D-Dan on Jan 17, 2011, 00:05:19
I tried Google's pre-release (ChromeOS), again in a VM, and to be honest I hated it. I can see some people liking the simplicity, but I prefer to have control. Not to mention that I quite simply do not trust the whole "cloud" idea. I want my data and applications safe and sound on my own HD, where I know where they are and what they are doing.

Steve
I have to say I would prefer my apps not on my HD where I have to keep updating them security wise, for many peeps using a PC its a nightmare, Secunia helps with its program but how many people even know what Secunia is? Cloud based computing would take the focus of keeping apps and programs up to date from bewildered users and maybe if it works make the pc you use a tad safer..maybe...
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: pctech on Jan 18, 2011, 14:36:17
I don't want to have to pay a subscription to use hardware I own.

Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: pctech on Jan 18, 2011, 14:37:58
Quote from: Technical Ben on Jan 18, 2011, 06:42:33
Most businesses HAVE been doing it for the last 20 years. That is what is so funny about the term.
I might try and invent an "Connectanet" where you have a set of computers linked, sharing data. These will be remote, and use a telecoms industry. But because mine is called a "connectanet" it's got to be a great investment for businesses!

Rose by any other... :whistle:

There is an amusing clip which I'll find later where Larry Ellison (CEO of Oracle) really takes the p*** out of the term cloud computing.

Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Rik on Jan 18, 2011, 15:42:54
Does it relate to cuckoo land? ;)
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Rik on Jan 18, 2011, 15:43:17
Quote from: pctech on Jan 18, 2011, 14:36:17
I don't want to have to pay a subscription to use hardware I own.



Sky+ owners are used to it. ;)
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: D-Dan on Jan 18, 2011, 16:42:03
Not to mention that if all your apps are "in the cloud" and your internet goes down, you have an expensive door stop on your desk.

Steve
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: D-Dan on Jan 18, 2011, 16:42:56
Quote from: Gary on Jan 18, 2011, 09:36:12
I have to say I would prefer my apps not on my HD where I have to keep updating them security wise, for many peeps using a PC its a nightmare, Secunia helps with its program but how many people even know what Secunia is? Cloud based computing would take the focus of keeping apps and programs up to date from bewildered users and maybe if it works make the pc you use a tad safer..maybe...

Linux - ahem.

Steve
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: pctech on Jan 18, 2011, 16:45:22
Quote from: Rik on Jan 18, 2011, 15:43:17
Sky+ owners are used to it. ;)

Well they will pay Murdoch.

Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: pctech on Jan 18, 2011, 16:46:42
Though that equally applies to routers and telephones of course.
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Rik on Jan 18, 2011, 16:52:42
Quote from: pctech on Jan 18, 2011, 16:45:22
Well they will pay Murdoch.

There's little choice if you want Sky+ to work, Mitch, yet you own the hardware which is capable of recording.
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Technical Ben on Jan 18, 2011, 18:58:57
I kind of agree Steve. But in priciple, you know Google will just have downloaded apps, with the same viruses ect getting on the pc. As they will never adopt the real "cloud" based applications. So your pc is still at risk when they take a shortcut and have a user based program.
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: pctech on Jan 19, 2011, 17:31:24
Here is that Larry Ellison clip I mentioned http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYa6gQC14o

Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Rik on Jan 19, 2011, 17:39:53
Terrible sound quality, but I have to agree with him, Mitch.
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: pctech on Jan 19, 2011, 17:45:38
All the versions have bad sounds but yes I agreee too.

Wish his company made better products though or should I say acquired better products, have to use two of them at work which are Java based and will only work with a specific build of Java which is now old, install the latest version and they simply won't boot up at all.

Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Rik on Jan 19, 2011, 17:47:20
Not a good idea. :(
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: pctech on Jan 19, 2011, 17:51:08
And the server component of one of the apps tends to crash out just when I've finished writing lengthy notes on a software issue but before I've moved off the record causing it to save.

Can be a real pain.

Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Rik on Jan 19, 2011, 17:51:47
I can imagine. :(
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: pctech on Jan 19, 2011, 17:54:20
I log back in and it switches to the other server and I have to start all over again pretty much.

Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Rik on Jan 19, 2011, 18:01:07
Could you pre-type the info in another app, then cut'n'paste?
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: pctech on Jan 19, 2011, 18:48:48
That's what I do using notepad now if its going to be a long 'un.

Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Rik on Jan 19, 2011, 18:49:49
 :thumb:
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: D-Dan on Jan 19, 2011, 19:47:30
IT Crowd moment:

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Oh, and I'm way ahead of the corporations now, having invented/innovated or simply made up the Interclowwwd. This is a conglomeration of all the technologies out there, and those that will be invented in the future. I should patent it, then I can start suing everyone :)

Steve
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Rik on Jan 20, 2011, 09:04:30
Go for it, Steve, it seems to work for MS and Apple.
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: Glenn on Jan 20, 2011, 09:10:55
These maybe of interest to you, Steve

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21831/how-to-test-drive-google-android-on-your-pc-without-buying-a-phone/

http://www.blogsdna.com/4032/install-google-android-on-pc-with-google-android-live-cd-live-usb.htm
Title: Re: My Android won't make calls
Post by: D-Dan on Jan 20, 2011, 21:35:53
The Google way is the way that I did it - not very satisfying. The first link looks much more promising, but since I'm almost exclusively running Linux now (I only boot Windows when I need the 3D software, until they fix wine so that I can install on the Linux side again) so the emulator is a bit of a none-starter :(

Steve